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Hello, LAN. Kimberly King and welcome to the mother's market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, we discuss the many benefits of propolis or blue, this natural mixed year produced by bees can help lesson symptoms of the common cold, improve the immune system and even stop menopausal hot flashes in their tracks.

Plus later, we'll tell you what's new at mothers and what's going on around town. But first up, Dr. Mark Taylor has been involved in the natural products industry for 40 years, including retail manufacturing, formulating in private practice, and he has studied a variety of traditional healing approaches, including eastern and western herbalism, naturopathy, nutrition and shamanism, marking is any collective perspective to the conversation with an emphasis on education and a truly holistic orientation, and we welcome him to the mother's market radio show. Mark, how are you?

I'm doing really good. Thanks for having me here.

Thanks for being here. Why don't you fill our audience in a little bit on your mission and your work before we get to today's show topic... Yeah, well, you know, I've been in the industry for a very long time, and it's kind of interesting, I had no intention of getting in this industry, I was actually getting my PhD in Sociology. I planned on trying to teach at the university level, and while I was in grad school for my PhD, I started working in a health food store, and coming from a small town, middle America that I did... I had never heard of a health Rooster, I didn't know what they sold in health food stores, it would just happen to be right now in the street from where I lived, and I just kinda woke me up to a whole new world. I had no idea that time, the diet in fact affected my health and longevity and everything, and it just kind of one thing led to another, change the way I started eating, I started getting more involved, starting exploring it, started studying with indigenous heal or smaller with the world, whether it be a shaman in the rain force in Peru, Native American medicine, man, trucial Chinese medicine, basically trying to accumulate information from many paths as possible, all with the intent really to not just offer some help and relief as far as diseases and symptoms go, but really to try to take it further than that. Maximize in our health and vitality. My question is, we all kinda wait around to get sick, why do we do that? Why not do things so we don't get sick in the first place, and why don't we take it even further? Why don't we do things? They're gonna maximize our health, maximize our vitality, maximize our energy, so that we have more years in the life span it and maybe more life to that life span, so that's kind of my orientation, that's my focus. I look for remedies that fit into this very nicely, so it's nice to find many of these natural remedies have some very targeted and specific actions, at the same time, they have some really wonderful kind of what I would call holistic benefits and that they may protect your brain, they help your art work that are a long... As your immune system, all those things... So these are things that I'm still amazed to this day, 40 years later, that these herbal remedies and natural remedies can do, 'cause simply pharmaceutical medicine can't do anything like this, pharmaceutical medicine will turn something on and turn something off, kill something, it's not really good at multi-tasking, Whereas these natural remedies are really wonderful in doing that... Well, and that's a really good point. We all do kind of sit around and wait until we get sick, so you are really looking at making sure that we don't get to that point, and we're looking at being healthy our whole lives. So thank you for your research. And I would add to that too, I think some of the motivation that is very personal to the sense that I'm a big baby when I get sick, they're actually studies, believe it or not, that when a man gets a cold, a flu... The symptoms and things are more severe than they are from women, sadhus came out this past year, so I'm holding up to my wife name... See, this is why I'm such a big baby. But I don't like being sick and it just, it motivates you even more to do the right things, the problem is with too many of us, we get motivated. I'm badly, I get sick for a week or two. You make all these promises to yourself, I'm gonna give up this food, I'm gonna start doing that, a month later, you're back in the same routine, so the whole idea is try to find ways that people incorporated as part of who they are and part of the natural lifestyle.

Well, that's very good. And again, it's about taking that next step and making those changes, so today we're talking about the propolis or be glue... Did I say that? Correct, propolis. So, Dr. Mark, I'm gonna start by asking you, I understand that you feel that the immune health is probably more important today than ever before, is that... Why is this?

Yeah, absolutely, I think there are a number of things going on. I think first and foremost is the increase the number of pathogens that are resistant to all the drugs that we have, and to me, that's quite a frightening process, I think about it, there is a virus or bacteria that's running around this planet that we have no treatment for what have I... That happens to be a deadly virus or super-impacting virus is one thing if we all get a cold or flu that's going away in a couple of weeks, but if we're talking about other viruses that are deadly and we have no treatment for it, to me, that's a very frightening process.

This is all happening at the same time that where there's massive overuse and misuse of antibiotics, I know a lot of people say, Well, I don't take any antibody, so I don't have to worry about that, that's not true if you're eating... If you're eating far mantels in this country, roughly 85% of the antibiotics used in this country or fed to farm animals, so you get those antibiotics when you eat these foods, I think you throw that on top of a diet and a lifestyle that put stresses and strains on things, too much sugar or too much refined carbohydrates, not enough rest, not enough play, not enough leisure, not enough exercise. All these things kind of add up, I think, to a perfect storm, which is basically saying your immune system, you're in trouble, you better start taking care of me.

And that's a really good point, and do you know what it is 2017? And so think about all these years compounded and it just like you said, with all the sugars and everything else moving into art with the hormones that... And antibiotics, you consider profiles to be an immune supporting compound that stands head and shoulders above other immune products out there, so... What is propolis? Yeah, that's a really good question. I'm not... Not sure, a lot of people in this country are familiar with it, although in Asia is widely used, particularly in cancer treatments, but you kind of alluded to it before, prophets is known as blue is a resonant bees collect from a number of different types of trees and other plants, they bring it back to the hive, if they mix it with some enzymes that they produce and they line the with it, they'll seal cracks with it, they believe it's part of the structural element also vibration. But first and foremost, I think that really we need to focus on this relevant for us, it's a great anti-microbial, and this is important to a bee hive, 'cause think about it, biota, a foot across are two feet across. It's a tiny little space.

There could be 20000 bees living in that space, so one B comes back with a little sneeze or a little sniff, and within minutes now 20000 bees are all picking up that same thing, so you need to have to be very clean, very sterile and properly fulfills that role, and what's funny about this whole thing is, it's interesting that it has this benefit, but the bees seem to know this, they've done studies where they introduce a disease or something into the hive, bees go out and gather more propolis and bring it back, so they know on one level or another, that this PROS is good for health of the hive and health of the bees, and it's a gift, I think, and a message for us to look at this and explore it, and thankfully, we've been doing that for 75 years now.

So, in speaking with you for a couple of years now, and you seem to be a pioneer in this field of immunity in, we've been talking to you about mushrooms, we've been talking to you about... So you are well read and researched in what you do, so thank you for bringing this to the table and bringing this to the forefront. You said this is from the eastern medicine.

Well, it's widely used in Asia, it's not necessarily a traditional Chinese medicine, as we think of Chinese medicine, like some of the mushrooms are or things like codon opus and ginseng, and some of these botanicals and remedies, but this is a remedy that's certainly been used in Asia again, in the last 50, 60 years because of the dramatic amount of research, but it's also been really big in Eastern Europe, Soriano when that still existed, they actually used it instead of penicillin often times... 'cause they didn't produce enough. Roman soldiers used to carry it in their medicine pouches because they would use it and put it on wounds, 'cause it's a wonderful wound healer, strata various... Actually, waxes violins with it.

So we've been using it in one form or another, primarily for these antimicrobial anti-inflammatory actions, there are some very famous herbalist, a. asen Galen, the herbalist, they're gonna know, but these are western herbalist that have been using these things for literally centuries, so we have a long history of use with them, so I just quit a question, so in lieu of penicillin, and was just curious because in my family we're alerted to penicillin.

So could you use propolis instead of... Or you'd have to work... It's always a little leery of making a general blanket statement like that, but the understand thing about propolis is such a power for antimicrobial, they have found no viruses, no fungal infections that become resistant to it.

One study looked at 75 strains of bacteria and other study looked at 120 some studies, fungal infections, including many that were drug-resistant fungal infections, and then again, the nice thing about prolapse, it's not just one compound, it's not just one thing that's an anti-fungal in there, it has probably hundreds of compounds that go in there that attack these fungus viruses, bacteria interfere with their replication, their growth, they're grabbing hold of the body and they can attack it from lots of ways, and it's basically how much defense can you put up... If you're attacked from... If someone comes out to you one way, you can block him, but if someone's coming in from behind, from above, from below, with lots of different techniques, you can't block all that, and that's kind of how process works, so... Yeah, I think it's certainly an option. Certainly for less serious conditions, there are studies with it for upper Spira Tory tract infection and the prevention and treatment, their study is useful showing it for kids, so it safety used for younger children. In fact, there's a spray out there that you can use for kids, so they don't even have to take a pill or capsule tastes really good. It's easy to get them to do so. Isn't an alternative yet? In some ways it is. It's called Nature's penicillin in some regard. Russians, penicillin, Russia's penicillin. But I think it has a lot of those options and certainly something you could use, but after I'm a big penicillin fan, I meningitis as a kid without massive amounts of penicillin as a child, I wouldn't be alive today. So you know, some of these things, while they have their problems, they also have their uses, it's just all about using them properly... Right, and I'm sure you have to check with your doctor, are there different types of propolis... Yeah, most of the problems that we're familiar with in this country is called brown probes, this comes from popular conifer trees that are pretty wide spread around the world, so probably 85% of the propolis it's produced is the brown promise. This is the one that is most commonly used and seen in health food stores, and its supplements, there's another type of problems, which is 10 or 15 of the propolis per or 15% of the problems, there's known as Green problems, and it actually has a green color to it, and that's because the resin on the plant that it comes from is actually green, so we look at the Pine, how the SAP comes out of it. That's a brown color. This plant, the back Ruslan has actually a green resident comes out of and it comes back and has his green color, then there's a new type that was just discovered literally 10 years ago called Red probes, and the interesting tale about that is they had no idea where it came from... They actually thought it was a mistake. They thought there was something wrong with the bees, and in the area where they discovered there was a candy factory and this candy factor, they thought that bees were going over there picking up sugar that had been dyed with red dye and bringing it back to the hive so it took him this up, we hear is to figure out, Hey, that's nothing to do with the candy factory, it has to do with this legume that these bees are going and gather from, and this was actually the first protest that was gathered from... They discover the was gathered from album, which gives it a different chemistry, different pharmaceutical applications as well. So it's kind of interesting to think of different types, and even the different types of brown profits from around the world have slightly different actions, they can vary seasonally, regionally and things of that sort, so... It's quite diverse.

Wow, and I'm sure there still are more to be discovered, you never know, what are the primary actions of brown propolis... Yeah, that's a huge question. We would actually need four or five hours to go through all this stuff.

First and foremost, a Santamaria. It kills the bad stuff, it kills bacteria, kills viruses, it kills fugues, in some ways I call it the anti-remedy, but it's also anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer, anti-tumor. And again, it's doing this through a number of mechanisms, so the inflammatory actions that works on the prostaglandins, these Loco trains, the important element is it's just working on a number of different levels to increase its efficacy in this regard, so they're a wide range of applications to it... And those are really just touching on it, when you think about what the benefits of any of these problems are, and again, Brown, because it's been around for so long, it's so extraordinary, well researched. And what about some of the benefits of the green propolis?

Yeah, green is an insane 1. it's a new one, and actually, I just read a study for the first time just the other day, showing that it's a very neuroprotective or brain productive compound. The researchers in this study suggested it may be a promising remedy for prevention and treatment of Alzheimer's disease, so much of Alzheimer's disease is protecting those healthy cells from the damage that's associated with the beam plaque, with the tile proteins and the things that are going on in the brain proper also boost immune system, the green problems booties system as the Brown does. There are studies showing it particularly useful for people under stressful conditions, which would be me and everybody I know, certainly for keeping immune system operating at optimal levels, there's a study actually suggested a increase spermatophore that... So again, a varied and dramatic ARA, very ponnani fungal promising studies, specifically with prostate cancer, I think that's one of the areas it's probably most promising in the cancer arena, and while it's not widely used here in the west, it's widely used, as I mentioned in Asia specifically as a cancer treatment and even by conventional medicine, it protects the liver from toxins, protects the brain from toxins, may protect against fluoride toxicity, which is a big concern that I guess I think overlooked, just because we can't avoid fluid, it's so hard to get out of our water, once they put it in a extraordinarily difficult here in Orange County, they just started for dating a few years ago, so it's inescapable, so it's nice to have these compounds in the protective actions.

Also, I use it there beautifully for people undergoing radiation treatment and things, 'cause it's very protective of the DNA and chromosomes providing them from damages, 'cause the problem is always has been with chemo radiation is it's not as targeted as we really like... We'd like you to go in and attack and poise and cancer cells alone. Unfortunately, it can also do your bone marrow and a number of other types of cells, so to pre-Alto protect those cells, which their green process can do is really helpful.

Wow, wow. So many different uses and benefits from this, this is great information, but right now we have to take a quick break more from Dr. Mark, in just a moment. Please don't go away, we'll be right back.

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And we wanna remind you that if you've missed any portion of today's show, you can find us on iTunes by searching mother's market or download the show from our website, mother's market dot com, click the link for radio and listen to the past shows, plus download our Healthy Recipes and money savings coupons, all available at mother's market dot com. And now back to our interview with Dr. Mark Taylor, and we're talking about propolis or blue. And it's very interesting, Dr. Mark, and thank you for sharing all of this. We've talked about Brown propolis. Green propolis. And now, I've never heard of Red propolis before, so the many benefits of brown green and now Red... Yeah, I read is, I think are really promising one, it's one that was recently discovered, so we're really at the tip of the iceberg, exploring the research on it, when you look at the Brown problems, there are literally 75 or more years of research on it, so we know a lot about it, we know what's in it, we know a lot of its actions, green prophets has been around 30 or 40 years, a significant amount of research on that, so we have a decent understanding of that, red problems on the other hand, we've known about for 10 years or so, so they're a limited supply of it, there's less us and research that we're really beginning just to explore the applications and benefits for it, and I think it's extraordinarily promising, in fact, one of the areas I think it's probably really good for and this is just my belief. Having read every single study there is on red, you mentioned I like the research and that type of thing, I actually kinda have an addiction for it, I can get really lost in that stuff...

I get really excited by it. It's kind of like thrill. People ask me, What are you doing on Friday or Saturday night? I'm sitting around reading studies on these things, not because I have to just 'cause I seem to like it, but I think red is legitimate longevity aid. I think when you look at the range of benefits benefits that read propolis brings to the table, first and foremost, it's anti-inflammatory actions, we know inflammation is responsible for much of the, what you call the side effects, so to speak, of aging, certainly preventative for virtually all chronic diseases, there are some very specific applications for red profits for cardiovascular disease, but red process is actually the most point antioxidant that was ever studied and tested by the US government, so it had a higher Oracle... The or value was 3540. to give you a sense of that close, which to that point was the highest Orcas 2092 term, which a lot of people are using now is 100 270. so it gives you an idea that this is a very potent antioxidant with a number of benefits and things, I think the cardiovascular area is one of the areas that is probably most promising to help us with the lipid health, the triglycerides and things like that.

Casein point is an example, a friend of mine, he was the national sales management, this company had pretty high triglycerides, went on this product for six months, he actually dropped his triglycerides, like 400 points, something that the doctor had never even seen even with pharmaceuticals, and he brought it down to a healthy level of 140 or 145 or something like that. So on the red special, the red proper specifically, and this kind of fits in with that whole herbal tradition where you would kind of look at something and you get a sense of what it's about. It's called the doctrine of signatures, red problems being read, the blood cardiovascular system. It makes sense that it might be useful in that regard. But like all the propolis is, it's very good for the immune system, it may actually be the most potent as far as boosting in unison, We just don't quite know that yet because the research is still new, but it's antibacterial and comparative studies is actually the most potent fungal, so for people of systemic candida or functions, it's incredible for there are studies as an anti-Oscar helping people fight the bacteria that can cause or they think causes a number of the officers in the body, it's just extraordinarily promising with a whole new array of applications and benefits, because it comes from a legume, it's not coming from a tree that brings a different set of what I call flavonoid ICES are different compounds that have different actions and benefits, there are some extraordinarily promising studies, Albers arch in the lab that suggest promise for pancreatic cancer, which is a very deadly cancer, five-year survival rate is under 5%, unfortunately with pancreatic cancer, more times than not, once it actually gets diagnosed, it's generally too late to do much about it. In fact, I just talked to a woman earlier today, she lost her mother to it, she was diagnosed and the months later she was gone, they don't have particularly effective treatments, obviously for it, in the lab, red process killed 100% of pancreatic cancer cells.

Really?

So it's a practitioner. To me, this is incredible to have these remedies that are effective for these much more difficult, more insidious cancer, so to speak, and treat, the other has been shown to show promise for is for leukemia leukemia can also be a difficult cancer to treat, even in western medicine, because you take out Leukemia, you're talkin about cancers of the blood, it's not targeted with radiate with a tumor in the chest or in the prostate, it's targeted, it's locally. You can go in, you can bombard it, Poison, attack it, cut it out, there's lots of avenues there, what... It's in your blood. What are you gonna do? Radiate the whole body. You take all the blood out. The options become much more narrow, and the research shows a lot of promise again, with the Brazilian red propolis in regards to leukemia, so to have something that looks so extraordinarily promising is for two very difficult cancers to treat and deadly cancers. I think it's incredible. On top of that, we have these overall health benefits that May us live longer, allocation scalar system, stay healthy, fight viruses, bacteria, fungal infections, to me, it's just one of my favorite remedies.

Wow, this is exciting news, and I really hope that moves forward, there may be... There are also a lot of listeners are surprising benefit of red propolis for women. What can you say? What's your personal involvement with this... Yeah, I always get in trouble when I talk about this. My wife started menopause a few years ago, it was not a pleasant experience, bones, it was not a pleasant experience for either of us, just out of the blue, her hot flashes were through the roof, her mood swings were really frightening and both of us... A joke to some degree that a red propolis product called East famine actually saved our relationship, and the East famine product is based primarily on the Brazilian red proper that we're talking about, and because it comes from a legume, it contains these ISO flavors that are not found in the other types of propolis, so it's only this Brazilian red prophets that seems to be beneficial in this regard, and they've known for years, is five owners have the benefits for breast health and a number of other things, particularly for menopause and stuff from Sainte, which unique about these is the chemical structure of it, which we won't get into, basically means that they're better absorbed, so you get a lot more into your system, so more benefit from them, and they stand your system a lot longer, something like five or six times longer, so you don't need to take as much and you don't need to take it as frequently, when she went on the East family product, she started taking it twice a day, one capsule... Twice a day. I would say within two to three days. Her symptoms all disappeared. She hasn't had a hot flash six years... Wow.

No mood swings. She's happy now and I'm really happy.

It's amazing because I've worked with protocols for women with menopause before, it's always five or six remedies least to get them through, to help them with that, so... To have one product like East famine with his Brazilian red propolis in it, you'll need... You take one or two capsules a day, that you get results in really just a couple of testimony, say How long does it take to get those to the... Not long again, the standard dose is one, but my experience is most people need to take two a day, it's fairly quick in two or three days to get rid of some of those symptoms is quite impressive, the hotlines are gonna be bringing like... That would be a better husband and... Yeah.

That was gonna say, Wow, that's great. And what does it... Tell me again the name of that, it's a use famine, he's family, and it actually is a blend of primarily the red, preserving red roles, it has some coming herbs in it as well, which kinda helps, so things a little bit, but the real active there is the resign red, professor, all propolis products. Are they all created equal?

Yeah, that's a real good question. It'd be nice to say, yes, they are. Bottom line, there isn't... A large amount of the propolis now is coming from China, as we know China can be a very polluted environment, it's gonna end up picking up a lot of heavy metals, so there's concerns with that, the type of plants that they come from can impact it. So I really like propolis products that come from pristine environments, that's why I like the Nature injector products because they come from remote areas in Brazil that are clean, there's not a lot of development... No manufacturing and things in the area. And then on top of that, the other thing that I think sets a nature, a part as far as their actual proper is... Is how they process it. They have what they call the Green extraction process, which is unique to them, they actually got it from a European poles manufacturer that has been doing this for 30 or 40 years, they've treated hundreds of thousands of people, and they're able to take this process, which is a really waxy resident. I wish I could show people, but you can't make do that on the radio, but it would be like taking a piece of a candle and trying to chew it and that you're just not gonna digest it. You're not gonna enjoy it. It's gonna stick to everything. So it needs to be extracted. And the problem with that is, it's so resonates that often times you need to extract in a really high alcohol, most of us don't wanna take a product, it's 95% alcohol, it's not comfortable, it burns, it's cost... Some people, we have the alcohol issues, so you say, I can't use alcohol, so that means you don't get some of the compounds in it, some people extracted in water, but that's only gonna pull out water-soluble compounds in it, so they have this extraction process that's unique that allows them to use water under certain conditions, that pulls out the range of compounds, not just the water-soluble, but also the alcohol soluble, they're gathering it from a pristine environment and then they're standardizing it, we know in the studies, it's very clear that process very seasonally propolis varies regionally. So there are a number of factors can actually change it, so they're guaranteeing certain levels of those actives that we know are very, very important, so clean, pristine environment extracted, so that we're getting those compounds that we want that are gonna be bio-active available to the body, at the same time, they're freeing up for any concerns in sing about it. Most people think B-products are gonna be allergy problems with it, and pretty much for everybody else's be products that is a problem with allergies, but with the prophets from the tenet or that has not been the case. People with Poland allergies and other things don't have to worry about it, and again, it's a product that's been sold for 25, 30 years, and they have not seen any allergic responses to it.

Oh, that's good. Now, and you have a couple of lessons from the beehive this year, what can we learn from this?

Yeah, I think one of the things is really important, I think these are really kind of... Our canaries in the mine miners used to carry canaries into the mines, so that when oxygen levels went down, the canaries would actually fall over and they knew to get the heck out of there. I think that's happening with the bees are dying by the millions, hives are disappearing anywhere from 30% to 70% a year, and I think it's a message to us that something's happening with the environment that we need to pay attention to, whether it be electromagnetic radiation whether it be pesticides, whether it be monoculture, but I think there are a number of factors that are impacting this, and again, I think the bees are saying, Hey, pay attention to your environment, be attentive to it. Otherwise, there are some severe health concerns of coins is coming down the highway.

Well, thank you very much for this great information as always, Dr. Mark in the meantime, get more information on Mark and his website, Natura nectar dot com and radiant health project dot com, and learn more about his approach and his unique perspective on a healthy lifestyle. We look forward to your next visit. Thanks is always a pleasure.

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