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Hello, I'm Carly King, and welcome to the mother's market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, we've been told before about the amazing healing and energy power of mushrooms, but did you know what effect this has had on re-populating the bees? You'll find out that and more so, listen close.

Plus later, we'll tell you what's going on around town and what's new at mother's market, but first of, Jerry angelini is Elias psychotherapist and complementary therapists, he's been in private practice for over 25 years using complementary practices to support health and wellness, and Jerry combines ethno botanical practices from Chinese Indian, European and Native American traditions, along with psychotherapy, food, dietary supplements, massage, Ricky Cheung and various spiritual and energy work practices, along with his private practice, Jerry is currently the national science educator and part of the formulation team for host defense organic mushrooms. And we welcome him to the mother's market radio show. And Jerry, how are you?

Well, thank you, how are you today?

Great, thanks once.

Why don't you fill our audience a little bit on your mission work before we get to the show's topic.

Great, so I have been in private practice for over 25 years. I work with just about anyone who has really struggled with their health and wellness, most of the people that come into my private practice have been sick for a long time, they've been really struggling, they've engaged multiple Western or allopathic practitioners and have really found no relief. So these are the kind of people that I've worked with for years and we just... We do their whole lives.

Yeah, it's kind of one of those you gotta rebuild it from the ground up kind of a thing, it takes some time and take some patience, a lot of compassion, a lot of listening and understanding, and a lot of willingness and work, but most people, they feel better and they are more functional in their lives, and that's really what we were going for. Excellent, yeah. Well, let's talk about today immunity for bees and humans, and that's what our subject is and what is happening with honey bees in the world to that... So there's this thing called colony collapse disorder that's occurring, and what we've found, science has been looking into this because over the past five years, an alarming number of honey bees, they've just been dying, literally by the millions. And this year, the numbers are 42% of the beehives in the US failed over the winter time, so if you think about that, if you were a dairy farmer and you had 100 cows, 42 would be dead... Wow.

When you started up in the spring time, Wow, honey bees take care of approximately 65% of the pollination of our food, and so if we continue to have these increasing deaths and losses of our honey bees, that's 65% of our food that will not get pollinated and that's in fact crisis stage because last year, although last winter it was 42% the winner before it was 33% that were lost from the previous year, and we've been seeing increasing losses over the past five years, and we're seeing this across the globe, I just spoke with a beekeeper for Manuka honey in New Zealand yesterday, he came by the booth and he was talking about, they're getting the Vera mites and they're having to use pesticides now, and so it's impacting even that even in... This is all the way in New Zealand, which is like on the other side of the world. It's an island and they're having infestations of a particular might call Tivoli is its parasitize the bee, but it also brings in viruses, and so what happens is these Vero mites with The... They're basically killing the bees because they suck their blood, it's like the vampire... Not in a good way.

Right, right, right.

And then they're exposing them to really significant viral experiences, and then the bees are also being exposed to pesticides and glyphosate and other compounds from conventional farmers that are not the best... Can't detoxify them, and so they're killing them. They're making them drunk. Basically, they're taxiing them and they can't get back to the hive.

So there are these factors that are working in concert, it's almost like the perfect storm situation, and it's literally devastating the honey, the honey bees in the whole world. So it's not just the US, although we're seeing a significant increase compared to other countries, have they been affected by Zika virus, and as you know this... No, that's not one of them. These are viruses similar to influenza virus, so yeah, it's not the Icarus, but this 42% that you're talking about that have failed, this is particularly in the United States in the US, this winter. Oh, that's his devastation.

How can mushrooms help hands?

So here's a really cool fact that most people really had no idea about, bees go to trees that have poly-por mushrooms growing on them, and they drink the exudate that the mushroom secrete from their root structure, the mycelia, and it's this kind of Swedish water like fluid that has a set of compounds in them that have been shown to reduce viral loads in honey bees by up to 90%... Really?

Oh yeah, this is really, really cool research. So host defense has been partnering with the Washington State University, and they're using our liquid extracts to support this research and to look into, is it possible that the mushroom mycelia exudate have compounds that can help bees immunity, and we're seeing a significant and resounding... Yes.

Wow.

Yeah, it's really amazing.

And so this is fascinating to me about this, so this is the way you found out this research, as you said, you just doubled up with Washington State University, it was a Dr.

Paul STEM, it actually has been a mycologist and has been growing mushrooms for decades, and he... In the 80s, he noticed these bees going to a wood Chapple that had been inoculated with the garden giant mushroom, and what the bees were doing is they were stepping up the fluid that the mushroom root structure, the mycelia were secreting into the wood Sims. And so fast forward 30 years now, Dr. Istana connected with the Washington State University and engaged in this process of, Well, you know, I noticed this and I noticed this, and how about we do some tests? And they were like, Yeah, let's do that. And the preliminary research came back very positively, these mushrooms, especially our race and our Chava, have shown the strongest reduction of viral in bees, and one mushroom called the Amidah was shown to increase the besides an in some cases, over 33%.

Wow.

Right, yeah, it's really amazing. So it helps them live longer, they're healthier, it helps them do the work that they need to do so that they can do the pollination and take care of the little bees in the Beehive and all that kind of great stuff, so we're replenishing them at... Exactly, yeah.

So what are the simple ways we can all help a honey bees, so this is a really important thing, like, What can we do that's really easy to help our honey bees... Well, first is, stay away from conventional pesticides and fungicides, and arbeite, we know for sure that those substances are taken up by the bees and it can negatively impact their liver detox pathways, and then they can't get back... It also reduces their own probiotic micro-flora, I know it's really strange, bees have probiotic micro-flora to just like we do, but we know that these pesticides do in fact destroy their probiotic micro-flora and it makes them less healthy, it reduces their lifespan. And it reduces their immunity. So stay away from those things. Another easy thing you can do is if you go to Washington State University, you can donate directly to that research on bees, which is really awesome.

So if you're thinking like, bees are really, really important. We should make sure that they're good. Were host defense is creating an area where people can donate so that we're donating up to 50000 to this research product, a project itself with not just money, but we're actually donating some of our liquid extracts so that they can continue to do the research. We wanna make sure that they have all the support that they can, but we also wanna get it out into the world so people can understand that this is a really important consideration, this is your food you're talking about... This is the majority of your food you're talking about, and these are simple ways that we each of us can engage in this really important fight for our bees.

Well, thank you. I think this is great that you are letting us know why it is so important, so mushrooms can help bees health, but how can they support the human immune system... How is this connected?

Great, So bees have immune systems, humans have immune systems, most of us only think about immunity in like in the winter time, it's like, Okay, if someone started sneezing and like... Or September, when all the kids go back to school and they come back. And if you want a sick right at... Exactly, well, really, your immune system works 24 hours a day, seven days a week, it's always there because we hear about these virus scares or bacteria scars, and it just reminds us that... Oh yeah, I'm supposed to be thinking about this all the time. Are right?

Your immune system is one of their basic functional systems, if you did not have an immune system, you'd be dead. Some of us were old enough to remember the boy in the bubble. Oh yeah, the Winchester... And he had basically multiple aspects of his immune system were non-functional and he had to live in this plastic bubble, like a life.

Right, and this is what would happen if we didn't have an immune system. But what we recognize is that not only do many people have reduced immune functioning, we're also seeing that many people have hyper-reactive immune responses, so this is a person that walks into their friend's house, the cat comes up to them and then they start sneezing on their eye start itching or you know that wonderful time in August when ragweed pollen, it goes all over the place and your immune system hyper-reacts, so what we realize about the immune system is a balanced response is really what we wanna go for.

And the cool thing about mushrooms is that there are many compounds in mushrooms, some support certain aspects of your immune system so that you can deal with things like pathogens better, and even roses that have started to grow out of control, and these are called natural killer cells and macrophages, we really want those nice and strong in our body, but there are other compounds that help reduce over-reactivity, and these are called Tri turbo IDs, and what they do is they reduce those inflammatory cytokines in our system that create that feeling of the itchy eyes and the swollen throat, and the red and the irritated, so really the mushroom, the whole mushroom has these multiple compounds that balance and support our immune system so that it's functioning in an appropriate manner.

Well, this is really interesting, and I love how you're tying everything in and teaching us about this... Thank you. And right now, we have to take a quick break. That more in just a moment. Go away. We will be right here.

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That's really a great question 'cause when people, if they even know about mushrooms, the first thing they think about is your immune system, and what we have found in not just research, but the Athabasca practices of the traditional Chinese medicine, and even a Vedic or the continental Indian medicine, what they have found is that mushrooms have many compounds that support other systems in your body as well, so you kinda get more for your money, right, so you must think this isn't just about your immune system, this is really about your whole body and helping you function better.

Well, I think this is so fascinating, something that I also cut my eyes... Can we use mushrooms for memory?

Absolutely, there's one specific mushroom called the Lion's Mane mushroom... The Lion's Mane.

Yeah, lions mean, it's a white mushroom, it's kind of round and it's when it grows out and it has these little isle-like tentacles on it, and it looks really like a white pom pom... It's an edible mushroom. It's pretty tasty. If you slice it up van and saw taunt, it's crispy and taste like lobsters or this nice for vegans that wanna have a little lobster experience, you can get some lions mean, there are some really amazing compounds in Lion's Mane that help our neurological functioning.

So that's in our... Just our hands and feet, and our legs and arms, but also our brain in our memory, so these compounds help our brain or neurological system function more efficiently and effectively, and this is done, we've seen some human clinical trials on this, which is always wonderful, so we know that it might take a couple of weeks to get into the system, 'cause the neurological system moves a little slower and some of other ones, but after a couple of weeks, most people respond that, Oh, you know, I remember where I left my keys this morning... Right, exactly. Like, what was that person's name?

Oh yeah, now I remember the most people report that their memory seems to function a little bit better when they're using the Lion's Mane mushroom supplement, and so they... Oh, it's a supplement to that as we have a liquid as well as a consul... Oh, that's good news, okay. And how do mushrooms support the heart?

One particular mushroom RAI has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for over 2000 years, and much of the research on Rashi shows that it's a tonic for our whole body, and what tonics do is they help our body function more efficiently and effectively.

They do this by just providing our system with nutrients that it kind of plugs in wherever it needs to, in regards to the heart function in a cardiovascular system, Rashi has been shown to balance or normalize a lot of the indicators associated with our blood work and our cardiovascular system, so things like triglyceride levels and low density lipoproteins, those get brought back under control a little bit, high density lipoproteins, the ones that we really like, those are also supported by RAI, and it can help us be a little more relaxed without having us fall asleep so it energizes us, it provides adrenal support, but it doesn't and gives you a little bit of a Zen experience while you're doing it, so it takes you out of that alpha, I do what, I gotta do it now, I gotta do now into this, get it done.

We're okay, we're gonna get it done. So Rashi is a really beautiful mushroom to help your whole body, but can also support your cardiovascular system...

Oh, that is great. And of how you're describing. Everything for us. Thank you.

Now, can mushrooms be energizing as well?

Yeah, so Rashi does support adrenal functioning, it can give you a really nice energy as you go through your day, in fact, all of the mushrooms are tonic in that concept from the Chinese, what's called kidney in support. It gives you that constitutional energy to get through your day a little bit more gracefully, one, however, cortices... And many people have actually heard of cortices is really energizing. It's very warming. It gives you a lot of them in vigor.

Really, for people that tend to have difficulty with energy, for people that run a little cold, maybe they lack park in their life, cornices has really been shown through centuries of use and some really beautiful research to re-engage that spark and bring warmth into people's body and energize them.

What about in mushrooms? Help with metabolism, right. So that's always a great question. Many people are like, I feel like my metabolism is a little slow, and definitely mushrooms have been shown to kinda help various aspects of blood glucose regulation, like my hockey helps balance blood glucose regulation and something called insulin sensitivity, and that's how readily your cells take glucose out of the blood, so that you can make your own ATP or cell, your energy with that rachis gently energizing. cortices is strongly energizing and can help kick-start your metabolism and give you a little more warmth and energy, so... Yeah, it's really wonderful. We find most mushrooms do provide an energizing quality, and it's really best to take your mushroom supplement in the morning and around noon, so that you don't get that 3 PM slum, right.

But if you take your mushrooms at 90 PM, many people report that in about an hour, they get a second wind and they start looking for projects in their home on... At night, 10. so they're up all night. Yeah, exactly, so if you're gonna go out to a club is a great thing, take two quarters, so you'll have a blast, you really want, but if you wanna be up at 6 in the morning, take it before 60 PM, it's like, Yeah, you're just to have that... Sense of energy.

Exactly.

Massive energy.

What about mushrooms? Are they appropriate for every day.

Yeah, absolutely. Many times people ask, this is a tonic, it's energizing, it's supposed to support my immune system. Should I be taking a break? And the reality is, is you don't have to... You can, in fact, use mushrooms every day, and the reason we know this is many of these medicinal mushrooms, medicinal mass, these are mushrooms that are edible, and they've been used in cultures as food sources every single day, and there's this one amazing research article that was done in the Nagano Prefecture in Japan, the no-Kathak farmers in this area. This Prefecture, they had a 33% reduced incidence and prevalence of cancer and mortality from cancer as compared to the rest of the people in that prefecture, so they were all eating the same foods and have the same lifestyles, the only differences... The farmers at And Okamoto mushrooms every single day.

Wow, wow.

So we know that it in fact, can help you live a really vital life, and it can help your immune system engage in the job it's supposed to do, which is protect you from pathogens and rogue cells, and it's opposed to... Your immune system is supposed to maintain this balanced relationship in your body so that it doesn't over-react either, and so we know that these mushrooms have been used and can be used on a daily basis with great benefit to our health and almost what age can people start taking these happens.

I usually say to an older, up until around 18 months old, babies and children, they have this developing digestive tract, Mushrooms tend to be very complex substances, you have to cook them. Don't ever eat a grammar, you will not be able to get anything from it. You don't have any of the enzymes to actually digest it, so you have to cook it, but after that two years, an older... Perfect.

And I'm just kinda curious, what is your path... What got you involved with this?

I have been using the host defense mushrooms in my private practice for over 15 years back before Paul actually went and made host defense, which has been around almost nine years now, he was supplying mushrooms to practitioners and to other companies for them to put into their products, and I would buy it by the Kelo, and I would have my patients on mushrooms, and to this day, almost every single patient I work with gets some kind of mushroom in their protocol and it's a foundational set of compounds to rebuild the system, so I really... I love them. I think they're amazing substances.

Wow. Well, it's been really interesting, thank you for enlightening us and teaching us about even the bee story too, I think it's been really interesting, so... Thank you.

You welcome.

Yeah, and some great advice, and we appreciate you having you on in the meantime, you can get more information on this website, it's called host defense dot com, and we look forward to our next visit.

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