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Hello, I'm Kimberly King, and welcome to the mother's market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, we're going to discuss food labels, what they mean, what they tell us, and perhaps most importantly, what they don't tell us, confused for you won't be after this week's show, plus, we'll tell you what's happening around town and give you a chance to win a 100 gift card.

The first step, it's too, to do something your mom told you never to do, see if it's time to play with our food, isn't that what it's all about? Only this time are gonna play with the nutritional aspects and find out what all those lags mean, and here to shed some light on this is board-certified clinical nutritionist, now live in Niles, the nutrition education manager and formulated for now foods is a mate advanced nutritional laboratory assessment is a professional member of the international and American associations of clinical nutritionists, and is the past president of the American Nutrition Association, and we're very fortunate to be welcoming him to the mother's radio show. Neil, how are you?

Great, that's wonderful. You be back with you.

It's always such a mouthful to your presentation here, we thank you for being here before we get to today's topic, can you fill us and your audience, our audience, and your work and its mission deal?

Yes, I'm not only a product formulated for now foods, but I'm the nutrition educator, and I do a lot of sign-offs and approvals for a lot of our quality processes. Part of what we do is try to address some of the issues that come to us from our customers, which include retail stores, practitioners in the public, and one of the issues we often hear is, Why can't I get what I need for my food? Why isn't there a perfect diet that I eat and I never need to take any kind of supplements... Yes. Why?

Yeah, the other thing is... Can't I get that in? All in one pill.

Thank you, bingo.

And we like to say you can, but it would be. It would have the name, title is down there, would be the size of your loyal or the... Right. Well, I love that, so I think I'm gonna really like this show here, so they were talking about the nutrient differences of organic conventional and biotech crops, and let's start by talking about a healthy diet, doesn't a good healthy dad always provide all the nutrients? I guess that's what we need, right?

Yes, and we're told that all the time, a healthy diet gives you everything you need, you don't need to take supplements, and I think that mantra is getting weaker and weaker as time goes on. And the more government studies there are, it's showing that people are not getting the nutrients they need.

And what are the reasons for that?

Part of it is 'cause people just don't like eating their vegetables and eating what they're supposed to eat, and no amount of badgering from the government is gonna make them eat something they don't wanna eat, so there is that. But there's more to it.

Here's the secret, look at your food label and on inside of each food package, there's a nutritional label and it says how much vitamins and minerals and protein, etcetera are in that product as... The problem is they're based on US Department of Agriculture Food tables that were developed around 1940.Now, as we know, we no longer have the same varieties of crops grown because they're growing crops that are designed for long-term storage, for ripening at the same time, for looking good on a shelf rather than tasting good, and for example, I was in Seattle last... And went to a farmer's market, and they had varieties of apples I've never seen or heard of, they had 100 varieties of apples, and I go into my normal grocery store in Chicago area, and maybe there's three, five and season maybe eight types of varieties. You never see all those varieties and they were grown for a reason, some are good for canning, some are good for storage, some are good for is all the different reasons. So they're not growing the same varieties anymore, the other thing is the soil fertility is not exactly what it was in 1940, people are putting NK three minerals back in the soil while the plants are taking out 72 minerals or... Roughly.

So some of those minerals are being depleted and they might be the one that you need in your area because the soils depleted because the plants take it up and there's not enough of that one, so all of a sudden you have an imbalance eating local turns on you and is no longer healthy at that point, although the freshness does affect things like Vitamin C, the mineral content is more at risk in terms of this... Another issue is the long storage time and the transportation, and the artificial ripening and all these other things.

So they've done some studies and they found, and this is not only true in the United States, they found the same thing in England. That the nutrient value of our food is in some cases, more than 50% depleted from what the food tables indicate.

Why is that important?

Because when you look at the food label, most companies are calculating that based on the ingredients and the USDA food tables that were made in 1940, when... Every time you say that, I always think of that the pyramid, that food pyramid that we think about when maybe that was... Was produced in the 1940s.

No, but the food pyramid was a brilliant PR move from the Department of Agriculture, the problem is lobbyists from the dairy and the grain and the meat industries distorted that, and it's been said that if you looked at the nutritional profile of swine fattening feed, that it matched the food pyramid to the original food here that it wasn't... In fact, there's not a Mediterranean food pyramid, and there's all kinds of alternative food pyramids that are actually healthier than perhaps the official one, because of the lobbying interests that go in, USDA is both a regulator and a booster of agriculture. The built-in conflict of interest.

See how that... And then they can flip it around too, right, that... So now we're finding the food supply doesn't even have what we think is in there based on the labels and what is legally allowed to be put down there because of the USDA food tables, so we're not even getting what we think we're getting, which 90% of the public is missing at least one vitamin and mineral, so it's even worse than we think, Oh my gosh, it's all in the advertising is the... Well, is it too that conventional foods are just as nutritious as organic foods, we hear that all the time, and it's usually from official sources and people who wanna tell us, make sure you eat well, and the supplements are... Don't even think about that, just do. Well, that's enough. And since the foot plot doesn't contain what it used to and what we think it does, and since people aren't eating everything they should, it's no longer enough to think you're getting what's on the label, it's no longer enough to think that... You're getting everything you need, that's where the dietary supplements come in to supplement the diet and add some insurance to make sure that you are getting what you need, and we've seen the American Medical Association and some of the government reports now saying it's prudent for most Americans to take dietary supplements as a preventative measure.

So that's important.

The other thing is that conventional foods were originally matched to organic foods on a very piecemeal basis, and in the last 20 years, we've seen the Science grow dramatically, we've seen where the science has grown from taking random samples from supermarkets, for example, to growing things on adjacent plots and using the same variety or cultivar, they call it, of seed, the same exact climate, 'cause they're grown next to each other, but you Sean organic method and use a conventional method, and in fact, they've done that dozens of times and with different kinds of foods and they found overwhelmingly that in these hundreds of studies, the organic food has more nutrients than the conventional food, but not all these nutrient differences are based on vitamins and minerals, some are... For example, if you look at organic catch-up versus conventional catch-up, you'll have 50% to 100% more of the red pigment looping in the organic, and like opine is now being shown as being healthy, not only for prostate and hormonal health, but to be helpful for cardiovascular health as well.

So the more of that you get, the healthier you are getting these healthy plant pigments, so we've all heard about eating the rainbow and the pigments from food being healthy, and that red pigment in food is higher in the organic foods... Organic oranges, even though they were smaller. They contained 30% more vitamin C than conventional oranges when they were tested.

Wow. Well, again, this seems like everything you're saying, all the information that we thought we knew, all of a sudden you're flipping it in, all the information you're saying changes... Yes, if you look at the studies, it blows your mind because we're not being told the truth, where we're being told the organics not better, and maybe the supermarkets and the agricultural agencies and all these lobbies have a reason for us to wanna think that... Because if this is good and that makes the other thing bad, and most of what they're producing is the bad stuff, they don't want us to think that there's other type of nutrient differences too, we should talk about in the second half though.

Wow, very interesting. I guess that means don't go anywhere because interesting information now, right now, we are gonna take a quick break more... A mother's market radio show in just a moment. So stay with us, we'll be right back.

Welcome back to the mother's market radio show, and you wanna take the time to remind you, if you missed any portion of today's show, you can find us on iTunes by searching mother's market, or you can download the podcast from our website. Mother's market dot com, click on the link for radio and listen to our past shows. Plus, you can always download our Healthy Recipes and money savings coupons, all available at mother's market dot com, and now back to our interview with board certified nutritionists, Melvin from now foods. We were talking about nutrition. So Neil, what types of nutrients vary because of the different agricultural methods used... Well, that's the key question, and we've seen as the studies accumulated, especially over the last five to 10 years, there, there's many more studies been done that compare these, that the vitamins tend to be higher and the minerals, but there's another class of nutrients that are now shown be much higher in the organic foods, and they weren't looking at this type of nutrient before the polyphenols and poly-finals are a broad class of antics and... Why are there polyphenols? implants is an interesting question, it's because the plants produce them and respond to environmental stresses, it could be a drought, lack of nutrients, environmental conditions, too much sun sunlight, too much rain, insects or animals nibbling on them, those stresses make them make these polyphenols as protective and protective compounds, often the plants make something for one reason, and it has a different effect on us, Why do the plants make sugars? Use them largely a structural material. Plants don't have bones. How do they stand up? They're using sugar as a structural material, you induce sugars, as structural material are genetic materials held together by the sugar ribose. We've all glucosamine for joint health.

Glucose is a sugar bonded to a protein, so these glucose protein mixtures, which is basically what DNA is and what our joint structures and our connective tissues are, are used in animals and humans as well as plants, so we're finding almost an unintended benefit where humans get a benefit from eating the plants, that might not have been what the plant intended, what he made it, and these polyphenols are these things that they're producing in response to stress for us, their antioxidant nutrients. They add to the value of our anti-accents, they protect our antic and vitamins, like vitamin A, C and E from being degraded in the body, they reactivate them, and they've been shown to be so protective that against things like cancer, heart disease, and these other conditions.

Now, obviously, we're not making those kind of product claims, but looking at the science and why plants make things and what health effects, the studies are saying that these things are significant for human health, and that the practice of Babin plants by using herbicides, pesticides. By using fertilizer sometimes to access are reducing the levels of these important antics in the plants that are conventionally grown to the point where they're no longer as supportive of human health.

Wow, very interesting. What makes the levels of these nutrients higher in organic foods because they are exposed to these stresses, you're not using chemical fertilizers, you're not using where they're getting tons of night or gen, maybe they're a little bit efficient in nitrogen, maybe they're not getting exactly the environmental conditions and they're not being babies in the same way, right, so that actually prompts them to make more of these things that help them deal with stress, but help us in terms of nutrition.

Okay, okay, so our GMO foods that have been genetically engineered with biotechnology, more nutritious and conventional or organic food... Yes, this is a controversial topic, but again, if you look at the science, the papers from universities, for example, that publish them in the scientific journals, the company is making these NACL-engineered or GMO foods are not doing it for our benefit. They're producing things that allow them to use more herbicide, and by the way, that herbicide is a very potent estrogen, so it's adding an estrogen the body can't deal with very well, and it's letting them use more of it because it's resistance to being affected by larger applications of these agricultural chemicals, they're not producing things that are hired nutrients, they're actually degrading the level of nutrients by, again, protecting them from competing with weeds, from having the bugs nibbling on them and things where they're producing compounds to help stop that. And so we were actually degrading the quality of nutrients in the plants that are genetically engineered, and we found in the case of soy beans, for example, there's some anti-nutrients that naturally occurring soy beans that when you cook them go away and it's quite edible when you dry soybeans, these things for them. And then when you cook them, they go with genetically modified, when you cook them, it still has the same levels, it's an unintended consequence of genetic engineering, and the literature is full of these because you can't control that, and in fact, they've eliminated the controls in the NEC Engineering, when they do that, genes have switches, if you imagine a console like the old stereos where you had a bunch of different knobs, you can adjust to different settings, and you could modulate the levels, the tone, the base, the travel, when you engineer it, they deliberately turn all those up to 10, there is no modulation based on what it's exposed to, they want the gene there and planting to be expressed fully, but they don't know what that's gonna mean in real life terms, what other things... These genes control. The other issue is data can't precisely can cut out one gene, they have other genes and gene fragments in there, they're also sentul environmental triggers no longer modulate them, there's other issues that they're using Caterpillar viruses to implant these because viruses are something that attacks ourselves and takes over ourselves, they're using them to attack a set cell and take over the genes in that cell and add this genetic material, and viruses of course, are notorious for mutating, and that's why we need different flu vaccines every year.

Right, so they're using a virus in the process, and they're making antibiotic resistance as part of the process, because one way they could tell which cells have been correctly implanted with this genetic material is they've added an antibiotic resistance element to it, and then they had an antibiotic to the mixture and kill off the ones that haven't been implanted correctly.

So now, here's something with antibiotic resistance, with a virus that could mutate and with uncontrolled side effects, they've combined bean and pea proteins, they're both quite non-allergenic and when they mix them in the genetic engineered foods, they're quite allergenic.

Wow.

So unintended consequences, they're not controlling, they have no way to predict. The good news is that using the gene technology today, you can do conventional cross-breeding and predict what's gonna happen more surely than you can the results of genetic engineering, so it's hopeful that if people embrace this cross-breeding still using the genetic technologies today to determine what's in the genes, but once they identify them to breed strains together to get the results naturally, that they can actually get better results.

Wow, don't GMO crops have benefits to farmers, including larger yields that are needed to help feed the world, that is a huge myth and... No, okay.

There's millions of farmers around the world that have been documented by groups like the soil association in the United Kingdom as improving their yield, lowering their costs, lowering their water needs, and water is a big issue for agriculture around the world, getting enough water that... By going organic and going from conventional farming back to traditional farming techniques, why did those techniques work because they were appropriate for that area and for the seeds paying more proceeds that you're not allowed to replant because they're patented is a problem for those farmers at cost more... Getting smaller yields, they are getting smaller yields, not larger yields, when they converted to biotech cotton in the United States, about 40% of the crop failed and the old crops had been bred to resist nematodes organism in the soil, genetic engineering removed that resistance and the plants all got Woody to and ruin the quality of the cotton, so you get unintended consequences from genetic engineering, and the only one who benefits is are the seed companies and the agricultural chemical companies, they're telling farmers they're gonna do more, they're telling the press that they're gonna feed the world... But it's not happening. The opposite is happening.

Wow. Well, that's pretty incredible.

So you're busting there through the myth, what is the bottom line and what can we do to... The bottom line is you get better nutrition from your organic foods, and the biotechnology foods are often are higher in anti-nutrients and lower and actual nutrients that cost the environment more, and they cost the farmers more and are not a good deal for anybody.

Wow. Wow.

Well, it's been fascinating listening to you, and thank you very much for your honesty here and making us think about these things, Neil, thank you very much for your time and we look forward to having you on again in the mean time, you can catch more of Neil by reading his blog and honest nutrition dot com, you can like him one nutrition Facebook page and following him on his Twitter at Neil, you live in and learn more about his expert nutritional advice at now foods dot com, and we look forward to our next visit. Thank you, thank you.

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So the first step is to soak the kidney beans overnight to cut down on the cooking time, or if you're in a hurry, you can certainly use canned kidney beans when you're soaking the kidney beans overnight in the morning, you'll want to drain those kidney beans and add two quarts of fresh water, bring them to a boil and simmer for one hour until tender after the kidney beans have been cooking for about 20 minutes, you will want to place the tomato sauce, tomato paste and water and spices in a separate pot.

You're going to cook that over a low fire, stirring continuously for 10 minutes, you add the vegetables and to the season sauce and cook for 20 minutes until tender brain the coach kidney beans and add them along with the textured vegetable protein to the season sauce and vegetables.Simmer for 15 minutes during occasionally.

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