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Hello, I'm Kimberly King, and welcome to the mother's market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, we're gonna help you de-stress, we've got a local doctor on the show to help us find ways to come back and control our diets and lifestyles, so we can improve our quality of life.

Plus, he's the one who started it all, mother's marketing kitchens on Bruce magar, and he's gonna share some of his unique insights, plus another chance to win a 100 gift card, so listen carefully to the comfort of this week, but first up, we're joined today by another prominent physician when it comes to alternative medicine, Dr. Allan Sawan is the founder and medical director of the institute for progressive medicine, and he's been practicing medicine for over 40 years. He's also an associate clinical professor at UC Irvine Medical Center, and certified defeat autism now physician, his institute treats people of all ages through comprehensive state-of-the-art new medicine techniques. And we will come into the mother's radio show, Dr. sass, and how are you?

I'm fine.

Great to have you here. And today, we're talking about something that affects all of us. Stress, we're also stressed out these days, and then the illness that surrounds us when we get too anxious or stress down on these days, it seems that we're all busier than we ever, so we are lucky to have someone with us to help us get it through and cope. So, Dr. Saad, let's start out by discussing how our diet can cause or eliminate stress... Gut has a lot to do with stress. People I see who are stressed out tend to have not very good diets, they go towards eating sugary things, a lot of times they'll have cakes or chocolate or something like that, which they find to relieve their stress, and ironically enough, those are the foods that create stress is a quick fix.

It's the quick fix in a way, it's not the same as street drugs, but the effect is about the same, 'cause you're taking something that alleviates the way you feel, you're feeling tension, you're feeling anxious, so some people go out and they'll use marijuana, or though some people will use heroin or alcohol, it's a stress reliever, it calms them down, it makes them feel better for that period of time, but in the long run, it destroys them, and I don't wanna equate food with that because it's different, but in some ways it's similar. And the foods that we eat to relieve our stress creates stress because something that you eat that gives you... That gives you heart disease. That gives you hypertension, that makes you anxious, that sugar does, and as chocolate does, and as caffeine does for a lot of people, is gonna give you more stress because it's gonna make you sick, and sickness is about the biggest stressor I know of... Next to somebody in the family. Dying sickness is a huge stress.

Well, and you're pretty much... You're talking to everybody that with that quick fix and we'd grab a cup of coffee in the morning and then there's loads of sugar in it, and it's just usually the way people start their day, so instantly when you get up in the morning... Not necessarily you, but half of the America just grab that cup of coffee and then off you go, you're already to a very stressful day, I would imagine.

It's artificial energy. I used to drink six cups of coffee a day... Wow.

And I had two or three cups before I saw my first patient 30 years ago. And around 20 years ago, I said, What am I doing this for? This is kind of dumb, and I haven't had a cup of coffee in 20 years, and I have actually survived that...

Wow, I was gonna ask, testosterone up in the morning, I have energy. I feel better actually, when you take something that gives you artificial energy such as caffeine, such a sugar, which does that also, you're actually draining the body of energy, you're pushing the body and it's driving it without using the body's own energy reserves, and you end up more tired, and you talk to people who buy 60 O'clock in the evening, they're finished. They can't take another step.

So what are natural good supplements are... Besides the supplements, but diet, if you get up early and you're go, go, go, go, go, what kinds of foods do you put in your body?

The first thing I would do is get away from the ones that you shouldn't have, so I would hear people away from coffee, a lot of folks that I have to have one cup by say fine, one cup. That's it, it's not 1 32 ounce cup. It's one real cup and use other things, like I have these days of smoothie every morning that's my breakfast, so it has ground up fruits and vegetables, I use a protein powder, I'll put some things in for taste like like bananas and dates, which I love... I don't put ice cream in there, I don't use any of that stuff, and it works as a breakfast and I feel fine, and if you can get away from the foods to which people have become dependent, and it really is some sort of addiction when you stop drinking coffee, I remember I spent two days in bed with headaches when I stopped drinking copies, there are withdrawal symptoms associated with it, there is some withdrawal associated with stopping sugar. If you eat it all the time, you will not feel so good for a period of time, it works like that, but afterwards when you're not having it and you're eating good foods and you're staying away from the things you should stay away from, there will be more energy, you wake up feeling better and you'll sleep better, and that's a really good point too about the sugar... I'm reading a book, Sugar shock, and it's so fascinating, and you mentioned it just a bit ago about how you compared it to drugs and sugar, it's just horrible. Our body does go into shock, especially when you're away from it, and if you happen to have a little bit of it after you've given it up, what it can do to you though, people are very sensitive to those things. I've see, again, children like with autism or ADHD, and a lot of them are very sensitive to the foods they eat, and they will be drawn to those foods, so if there's a piece of track, they'll grab it and eat it and then get worse about 10 minutes later, they're awful, and the parents know that and they keep their kids away from those particular foods which caused their neurologic condition to worsen, and we're very careful and have a lot of recommendations for people who have brain-injured kids who have kids with autism, 'cause the diet needs to be very regulated for those kids and they respond to it.

How does he exercise? Fit in with stress levels, exercise is a great stress reliever or reducer you're producing for When endorphins, which are the body's own opiates, so we actually make our own opiates that we thrive on when you run... And I used to run long distances. And at the end of that, I would feel fantastic. There wasn't an acre of pain, I was just like floating, and that was endorphins, I imagine that was doing that to me, so it's a feeling that you get from exercise that's exhilarating, and people who are able to exercise a lot get that on a regular basis, I've seen many patients who come and say, I have to be in the surf every day, if I don't go, I'm depressed, which is true for them, 'cause they've been... Benefit from it in that way, and I always feel better when I exercise, even though sometimes it's difficult, or if I'm with my trainer, sometimes it's tough. But at the end of it, I always feel better. It's invariable. So exercise is a great stress reliever, and I think it's important for people who... And most of us have quite a bit of stress. Some people have unbelievable stress, but if you can put in the right kind of nutritional program plus the exercise, it just makes things go so much better.

And that's great advice. What about... We also hear about lack of sleep these days when we're trying to burn the candle at both ends, and samnites, the biggest symptom I see in this practice is number one.

Wow.

So I might think fatigue is up there, or something else is up there, stresses up there in some... Is number one, I see more people with that than anything else, sleep is an important thing to have, people need as much as they need to have so that they feel okay the next day when they wake up, I can get by with six or six and a half hours, and I do find I didn't used to be able to do that. It used to be eight hours or something like that, sometimes if you get older, you need a little bit less, but it's important to feel well when you wake up the next day, and if you don't... There's a problem going on. Some of those people have sleep apnea, some of them have other things going on, some of them didn't eat right before they went to bed, maybe they had some alcohol too much, or some sugar too much, and that makes your sleep not go right.

So we work with nutritional supplements, mostly, I try to avoid sleeping pills, sometimes it's hard to do that because sleep is so much of a problem that you've gotta get them a night sleep, so sometimes we will use sedatives, hopefully on a temporary basis to get somebody at night sleep, but in the long run, you need to have people off of those drugs because they are highly addicting, and I've seen many people... I've even seen drugs like Ambien, which is a sleeping drug, be used as addicting type drugs. I'm taking it 20 times a day.

Wow, so it adds up to the same thing, and I have never seen a prescription sleeping drug, which was not eventually addictive to people, so they are all are like that, and it's important to work with ways of sleep that don't involve using drugs, although as I said, sometimes you have to use them 'cause the person hasn't slept in a week or two, and that's impossible to stay with... They have to get some sleep.

Oh my gosh, I can't even imagine. How do you know if you're getting no sleep... Go by how you feel. If you wake up the next day and you're... You can hardly get out of bed. You didn't get enough sleep, even if you were in bed for 10 hours, it wasn't going right.

So we'll look into what's the sleep story with this person is a noisy outside or the kids waking him up all the time, what's the history of this whole situation? Is there a sleep apnea problem? Are they using recreational drugs, are they drinking too much alcohol, all of those things will lead to it, if they're having the wrong foods, that they have big meals before they go to bed, expect a sleep problem, expect that there may be nightmares. Are they around stressful people, are they involved in difficult situations, was there an argument with the wife or the husband before they went to bed that you know I'm gonna divorce you, so maybe not sleep so good that night, those kinds of things. Are all issues that relate to sleep quality, so we look at those things, and a lot of times you can make modifications... I can't solve all marital problems, but I can make suggestions about, Well, let's not discuss these sensitive situations, just before we go to bed, maybe we should deal with the next morning and then get mad at each other, but... No, not at 10 o'clock at night. It's the wrong time.

That's a very good advice.

What do you say about taking a nap, an afternoon nap to really stress... Don't like Napoli, that snaps interfere with the evening sleep, usually, if people have to take naps, there's something going on that needs to be adjusted. Again, I'm not talking about everybody. Some people have illnesses that require them to sleep during the day and find... But a person who doesn't have some other thing going on, if they're taking naps during the day, I would look at... Look for some other problem that's interfering with sleep at night, because if things are going well, you don't need it now, and the amount of sleep... Does it vary for each person, I used to say, eight hours of sleep a night.

Everybody needs something else. Again, to me, it's really how do you feel when you wake up? It's just a question I always ask. I don't ask people how many hours they get, unless something else is showing up, so if they say I wake up in the morning and I feel awful, then I'll ask them, how many hours you get? If they say, I wake up feeling fine, I don't care how many hours they get... They don't need anymore.

Okay, well, this is a really interesting topic and there's plenty to learn from Dr. sasson as normal as usual. So well, please stay with us, we'll be right back to welcome back to the mother's radio show, and we wanna take the time to remind you that if you missed any portion of today's show, you can download the podcast from our website, mother's market dot com, quit the link for radio podcast to listen to our past shows. Plus, you can always download our Healthy Recipes and money savings coupons, all available like mothers market dot com.

And now back to our interview with Dr. sasson, we're talking about how to handle stress and what we can do to minimize and better control it in our busy lives. Dr. Sawan, can you talk more about some negative effects that pharmaceutical medications by Amon, as pharmaceutical medications all have negative effects, you see these commercials on TV and they're required by the FDA to tell you what the drug is gonna do to you, that cracks me up by the way when I hear that, then why take it with all those side effects... Is that what you're talking about, right?

So you have this nice soothing voice saying, after they tell you about the drug, this drug may give you diabetes, it can make you obese, if you're a child, that can make you depressed and wanna kill yourself, and if you're an older person, it can give you a heart attack and kill you that way, and that's what they tell you. And this is the drug. Say My goodness, I hate... What's wrong here?

Yeah, right. And that goes out for every drug that there really is no drug, even the over-the-counter drugs, there's no drug that has no side effects, they all have side effects, and if you take too much tied all your deliver is gonna get destroyed. And if you take time now when you're drinking alcohol, you're gonna destroy your liver, so this is an over-the-counter drug that we know can be lethal, and so can aspirin and any drug can be lethal, so our objective is to try and handle things as much as we can... Without drugs, and I do have people who are on Aspirin, I do have people who are taking cumann for blood clotting issues, we do use drugs, but it's all individualized, it's all, what does this person need? What's the safest thing for this person, and if they come in using psychiatric drugs and sedatives, I always try to make an effort to get them off, and some people don't wanna come off and then it's more difficult to course. But a lot of people do wanna come off because they feel the side effects, they feel fatigued, their minds aren't quite as sharp, and this is very common with sedatives and anti-depressant drugs and mood stabilizers and antipsychotics. They will knock you down. You're not as bright, you're not as alert, you're not as outgoing. You don't talk as much. You're not as communicative.

So they tend to put people at a lower level of consciousness, in my opinion, even though a lot of times they feel better because the things that are making them upset don't bother them as much, it's like a not right, it's sort of still a one, the wolves are still at the door, but I am not worried about that now, well, that doesn't get the wolves away from the door, it doesn't solve any problem, it just makes a problem... Not bother you as much.

Some people don't know what the problem is, and then they're willing to take the drugs, so they just don't feel the negative effect of whatever that problem is, that they don't know what it is.

So then again, you have to look at things and see what's going on, but our job, our effort is to work people away from these drugs... And it may take six months. I don't rush it. I never tell people who are taking heavy duty psychiatric type medications, stop it tonight, because it's not gonna work, they're gonna get into trouble and it has to be done supervised, medically supervised over time with appropriate attention to their entire lifestyle, how do they eat? How do they behave? Who are they involved with? Who do they communicate with? People who are frequently depressed, they're upset, have someone in their lives or several people in their lives helping that to happen, so it could be an employer, could be a wife or a husband, it could be a child, it could be a mother of our father, but there's almost always somebody or several people who are contributing to the way this person feels and that can be dealt with, if you know who they are and you know what's going on and you have some education on how to deal with them, it's not like I'm right. And you're wrong. It's like, What am I doing to upset you, and what are you doing to upset me, and how can we work on this and make things go better, how do we create Good roads, good weather, how do we make things go right. Rather than being on each other's throats all the time, sometimes people have to leave their jobs sometimes really... It's the wrong profession, or it's not a good boss, or it's not a good match, or it's something... It just has to change. Sometimes there does need to be a separation of a husband from a wife, hopefully it's not permanent, sometimes you need distance, sometimes you need privacy, things change, but I don't believe in going to drugs as a solution because they are never a solution, and you have it just sounds so elementary really, you just kind of pair things away and instead of asking it with the drugs... Yeah, take a good life perspective and see where you're at, and don't be around people whom... That stress you out too, I suppose. Or at... You just mentioned what nutritional supplements are beneficial, and I guess that would be an individual question for which ones, but is there something general that people can take each and every day that we should start off our day with... No, there's a number of supplements that we use on a routine basis for stress, emotional problems, fish oil is one, and I give it to everybody anyway, because it's good for everything. So much is that dependent on the person? Depends on what you're dealing with, but most of the time, I recommend 1500 milligrams of fish oil, EPA, DHA, The Two Kinds, DHA tends to work more effectively for depression, so I'll tell people will try and get DHA... We happen to have a supplement here that's mostly DHA, so that's the one I would recommend for depression if you're dealing with inflammation, which fish oil was also good for, I recommend EPA, which is a little bit better for that particular problem, so I... Is a lot... 1500 milligrams for an average person like me, or you... Someone was having more problems with anxiety, depression, I might go to 3000, it might go to 4000.So you raise the dose, there's really no downside to it, people who say, Well, fish is gonna give you more of a bleeding problem, nonsense, it will give you a bleeding problem if you're taking five aspirin a day, that's it.

If you're on 10 milligrams of a blood on or a day, but not by itself, the Eskimos didn't have spontaneous bleeding from eating fish in the Arctic, they didn't have that problem, they also didn't have heart disease, so there's things to be said for fish, and I think it's almost entirely safe and almost any those... What about other supplements? I heard you talk a lot about vitamin C, is that conformance is mainly for immune situations, for fighting infection, for healing wounds. I don't use it particularly for grass, although we use it in our stress infusions, but things that I like more for depression for anxiety are sienese, methionine, also called same 5day trip to panel trip to fine those items. You have to be a little careful if you're taking them and using them, and someone who has anti-depressant medications because they can interact with each other, so if they're used, you have to separate them by time, usually four to six hours apart. And those are some major items we work with, we have combinations of amino acids, GABA, several others that can be put together and are available in combinations that are useful in Novato is a supplement related to the B vitamins that helps with anxiety and depression. Some people have used cava, which is an herb that they've used in the South Seas for years, and that helps with anxiety, helps calm people down. There's a number of different things you can work with... Okay, well, that's good. A couple of... Some other advice about really not taking supplements and then drugs, but just staying active in your community, you talked about not being in a place that stresses you out or working with people if there means a job change, but what other kind of advice can you give to folks about the teething about communication is... It can be good or it can be bad. So bad communications. Yeah, Dell upset you. But the absence of communication is actually the single worst thing, so people who are entirely isolated, who live alone, who don't have a lot of contact with other people, they have the worst problem as a human being is required communication, and if we can't get that, we revel up and we fade away. So it's important to have it, it's important to establish it. To be the right kind of communication. What we're doing right now over this table, I would consider good communication, and that's an important thing, so the more of that I could do it, the better it is for me, that's what I think people should be aiming for, it's not that... You wanna get away from everybody, you wanna get away from certain things that aggravate you until you're able to deal with them so they don't aggravate you, hopefully, but being around... Sometimes I'll work all day long and see 30 people and I don't wanna talk to anybody else.

No, so I will go be by myself for a while, or I'll go to the mall and walk around the mall and just look at people... Right, that's fine. I don't have to talk to them, I can just look at them and get that enjoyment and I'm not forced to communicate, so sometimes you need a little bit of privacy because you've been on the line for too long, so I think that's fine, but communication is very important and it needs to be there basically every day.

And I think too, just to kind of wrap things up, when people fall back on what their real passions are, if they're not doing that in their job already, just finding things you do that you love to do, and try to find a little bit of time each week or so. Uh, that's really important. Kempe see a lot of people with addiction problems. And one of the most salient factors of it is they have no purpose, that they don't know what to do with themselves. They may not be working. They may not be going to school. What you do, I don't do anything, and they don't have a purpose. And the times in my life when I've had the most difficulty, it was when I didn't have a purpose, and if you have that and you have something that you know, you're an intent on making... Go right, I could be your children. Could be your spouse, it could be your mother, it could be whatever. As long as you have that. We need things like that. Without that, we don't do so well.

That's a great advice.

Well, thank you once again for your time, Dr. sasson, and we look forward to having you on again in the mean time, you can catch more of Dr. sasson on his website, I progressive Med dot com, and learn more about his passion for alternative medicine and other great things he's involved with. We look forward to our next visit. Thank you, thank you.

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