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00:11 Kimberly King: Hello, I'm Kimberly King, and welcome to the Mother's Market podcast, a show dedicated to the truth, beauty, and goodness of the human condition. On today's show, pro sports have started back up and many athletes, young and old, are getting back to their regular training and exercise. We've got a former pro baseball player on to discuss how you can eat right and train to make sure you are competing at any level. And later, we'll tell you what's going on around town. But first up, former professional baseball player Jordan Tripp spent 16 years learning and developing his mental and physical skills before becoming one of the top players in the world. He was drafted seventh by the Oakland A's in 2010, and began training amateur and pro athletes in 2013. After his pro career ended, he began a new career, developing and executing customized training programs designed to improve his clients' weaknesses and build upon their strengths. He trains young baseball players on the skills of the game, but is also a personal trainer for executives, amateur athletes, and those a bit older. He's developed exercise and diet programs tailored to the needs of each of his clients, from elementary school age to the elderly. And we welcome him to the Mother's Market podcast. Jordan, how are you?

01:23 Jordan Tripp: Hello, I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me on.

01:25 KK: It's a pleasure to have you. Why don't you fill our audience a little bit in on your mission and your work before we get to today's topic?

01:31 JT: Yeah. My mission is just to help my clients achieve their goals, whatever they may be. As you mentioned, I work with a wide variety of clients, both in age or skill levels, or... Some play sports or someone just trying to get healthier, right? So, my goal is just to help them achieve that. I want them to be a better baseball player, get to professional ball. Or if their goal is to lose some weight or get stronger, I wanna help them achieve that.

02:04 KK: Well, it obviously worked for you, so it's great that now you're sharing your talents.

02:07 JT: Exactly.

02:08 KK: Today, we're talking about exercising and an active lifestyle diet for each stage of life and why it's so important. Did being an athlete for you as a kid help to nurture your passion and the diet info for fitness?

02:22 JT: Yeah, I think so. Growing up, I was always super into sports, I was always playing. And for me, it was once I got older, I began to realize how much diet and fitness and training played in becoming a better baseball player. And once I realized that I had that opportunity to get to the next level, I started really focusing on that even more.

02:49 KK: That's great. It's so competitive. Obviously, you know...

02:52 JT: Especially in this area, in Southern California, one of the best areas in the world to get to the next level.

03:00 KK: And things have changed a little bit, so that's what I also wanna talk to you about, in this day and age, as to when you were peaking. What should young athletes eat the day before an athletic competition?

03:11 JT: Well, that can vary a lot, depending on the athlete, the type of sport. But generally, you want to have a good combination of carbs, fats, and protein. Carbs, it's gonna increase your glycogen stores, which is your muscle's main source of energy for short and high-intensity exercise. That can be a combination of oatmeal, fruit, toast, potatoes, stuff like that. For breakfast, I would always eat a bowl of oatmeal. And I put almond milk, some scoops of almond butter, some bananas, some blackberries, and maybe even throw in a scoop of Whey protein. For me, that was a great starter for pre-workout or pre-game.

03:57 KK: That's really good. And thank you for sharing what exactly you ate, too, because not everybody really... That sounds good actually.

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04:04 JT: Yeah. Well, that's what I get a lot too, is people reaching out to me on social media or texting me, and they're like, "I just don't know... I don't know what to eat, I don't know how much to eat." And again, that varies so much for everyone. But generally, that's a great starter, it's super easy, you can even find it on the go. I like to go to this place, right up the street from your Mother's Market. They have this little cup of overnight oats called MUSH. And I just go in there swoop it up on the go, and I'm heading out to my workday.

04:37 KK: And just a quick question, how about no sugar on there? It's mostly carbs, as you pointed out.

04:43 JT: Right. I like to get my sugars from fruit, like bananas, blackberries, blueberries, strawberries. Whenever I am advising any of my clients on what to eat or not to eat, I have them avoid processed sugar at all costs. That is a big no-no for me. Alcohol, too, minimizing that intake, but we live in beautiful Southern California and there are so many places to have fun here.

05:11 KK: Right, exactly, so trying to stay in the focus zone, especially on the day before an athletic competition. How about the day of the competition?

05:19 JT: The day of, what I liked to do is I liked to play almost on an empty stomach. Maybe not so empty, but I just didn't wanna feel full. I didn't wanna feel sluggish. I was playing center field, I was stealing bases, so I wanted to feel light. So, I would always eat two hours before a game, sometimes maybe even two and a half. And then I'd pack like a little protein bar to have in the middle or the end of my game. But my diet would be very similar to what I ate even the day before a game or just throughout that week. It'd be very similar, but I would just make sure that I felt super light when I played. But again, that varies. Some other players... I know guys that I played with that liked to play on a full stomach, and they ate like an hour before a game. I know guys that would workout super early in the morning, and they wouldn't even eat anything before, so it varies.

06:14 KK: It kinda varies on what you... But I understand, I would think, when you're full, then you can't run as fast and... But everybody is different and... And you guys have so many games, so it's really that...

06:24 JT: Back to back, yeah.

06:25 KK: You adopt that into your lifestyle, as far as your eating habits, right?

06:29 JT: Right, yeah. Having a routine is huge. Yeah, absolutely. And maybe a first baseman that's not running as much as myself, like a center fielder, maybe he wanted to eat a little bit more and eat closer to the game. But for me, I like to be light. I had to run down fly balls all over the place, and was expected to steal bags and go first to third, go first to home.

06:50 KK: Yeah, so you can individualize it to each position on there.

06:54 JT: Right.

06:55 KK: What about eating between games?

06:57 JT: Ooh, that's a good question. I would always have a light snack in between games. When I was younger, I remember my parents would always go on runs to like, "Hey, I'm gonna go to Subway real quick, what do you want?" And I'll always be like, "Oh, a little 6-inch sub, just something light and quick." That was when I was young, I wouldn't eat that today. But, yeah, kinda the same thing, protein bar, protein shake, something like that. I remember always having a bag or a bottle of protein powder in my locker to have as like... Just to get some extra calories and some protein in my body.

07:36 KK: Yeah. And protein turns into energy, right?

07:39 JT: Right.

07:40 KK: Okay. So, we talked about the day, before the day of, and in between. How old were you when you began to weight train?

07:47 JT: I started weight training in high school. When I think back on it, it wasn't anything in comparison to what weight training in high school is today. I see kids today just throwing weight around like it's nobody's business. But for me, I didn't really have an extremely focused plan or weight training program. I wasn't doing the deadlifting or the front squats or stuff like that, that I'd started doing in college, which... That made a big difference for me and helped me really get to the next level. Once I got to Cal State Fullerton and I started doing those big, heavy lifts, that's when I noticed a big increase in my speed, my strength, and my overall production as a baseball player.

08:41 KK: Do you attribute... Because as you mentioned, now it's different in high school, and a lot of high schools have athletic trainers, so they're probably doing what you were doing in college now, preparing for that. But was that a big shock to your system? Even though you saw the results, were you like, "Oh, my gosh," this is what having an athletic trainer and then going next level.

09:00 JT: Yeah, absolutely. And I had an older brother who had... He played at Cal State Fullerton as well, and he knew some of the guys that were still there when I went to Cal State Fullerton. So, I remember right away, he goes, "Hey, you're going to Fullerton, I want you to workout with this guy, this guy and this guy. They know what they're doing, they're gonna push you, they're stronger than you. I want you to lift with them." I think that was... That really helped me as well, 'cause I... It's not that I was behind when I went to college, but I was definitely a late bloomer. I didn't start playing center field until my senior year of high school. And I really didn't start working out until the summer before my senior year of high school. But as I mentioned, it wasn't anything complex or as advanced as high school workouts are today.

09:45 KK: We're gonna talk about this in a little bit about... Obviously, you're in college, you have an athletic trainer, but you also had your brother as a mentor. Oh, my gosh, that's great.

09:53 JT: Huge.

09:53 KK: Not everybody has that, but there are people like you out there that can offer that, so we'll talk about that, how you can mentor others and help them along. When is the right time for young athletes to begin to hit the weight room?

10:06 JT: Well, I think that can vary based on the athlete and their strengths and weaknesses. They should always be training in some capacity at any age. So, maybe a 10-year-old, maybe he's doing speed agility, foot work drills, stuff like that. Maybe a 13-year-old, who's a little bit stronger, he can start doing a little bit more of a weight training program, or adding in some band work.

10:31 KK: Oh, yeah.

10:32 JT: Yeah, instead of doing some kind of front squat with a barbell or something that's a little more advanced or complex. But I think, as soon as you can, as soon as you're able to, start doing something, start doing some sprints, uphill sprints. I remember I used to do that as a kid. I would always run, I'd run about a half mile to this little storm drain, and I used to do sprints up this storm drain. And I'd run back a half mile, and I would always time myself. And that was when I was maybe, I don't know, 11 or 12. And then that, certainly thereafter, is when I started a little bit of weight training.

11:09 KK: But the bands, too, it's like that precursor to the heavier weights and everything.

11:13 JT: Right. And there are so many different modifications to movements or exercises that you can supplement instead of doing a front squat with a barbell, which is a more advanced movement. You can hold a dumbbell at your chest, or you can hold a band and attach it to your feet at the bottom, or something like that, to increase some resistance, to make it a little more difficult than just doing a traditional front squat with nothing on you.

11:38 KK: Right, right. Again, we're talking about working out today versus working out then, are they... Are the workouts today, are they specialized for each sport?

11:49 JT: I think so. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's some similarities between training. I know a lot of football players and basketball players who are still doing front squats and back squats, and things of that nature, that baseball players are also doing as well. But I think maybe, for basketball players, they're doing more explosive jumping exercises, 'cause they wanna be able to get off the ground, or they're doing more agility movements or something like that, because... Or more cutting, because that's more involved in their sport. Certain things like that. Whereas to baseball, you're generally running in a straight line and it's zero to 100, versus basketball could be more cutting side-to-side, same with football.

12:36 KK: Yeah, I know. My son played football in college, and I... Just watching those workouts and the side-to-side and everything. Is there a danger in starting a weight training regimen too early for young athletes?

12:51 JT: I think any time you really start a training program, there's always a little danger or risk that you could potentially get injured. But I think, again, that goes back to what I do where everything is customized and specific. I'm not gonna put someone in position or put an exercise in their program that I think is gonna put them in a dangerous position. I'm gonna do a modification to that lift instead of risking injury.

13:23 KK: And it's good, again, you've been there. You know what works for you.

13:28 JT: Yeah. I've been hurt, I've gotten injured before, I've tried to push weight too much, or I've tried to do a certain movement before maybe I was ready to. And I've been injured, so I'm all about injury prevention, longevity, proper form and technique, activating the correct muscle groups that we're focusing on for that specific lift, stuff like that.

13:52 KK: It sounds like you started young on your workout, but you said you were a senior when you officially started playing in center field in baseball.

14:00 JT: Correct, yeah. And then right before that, right before my senior is when I really started working out in the gym.

14:04 KK: If kids are starting really young these days, how do you manage burnout? And how do you help motivate yourself and then others?

14:12 JT: Yeah. Well, I'm big on kids playing other sports, or playing multiple positions. I played... My freshman year of high school, I was a pitcher. I was one of the starting pitchers, and then I was a catcher and a right fielder, so it took me some time to figure out what I was best at before I really went all in on center field. And I encourage that with all my athletes, like, "Hey, try football. Hey, try this position, try that. You never know. You might excel at this or you might excel at that. Maybe you're not good at it now, but maybe you need more time to practice and develop."

14:47 KK: That's really great advice. And again, also the positions... My daughter plays soccer, and she has a completely different position in college than she did in high school. She never thought...

14:56 JT: Oh, really? What did she start at then?

14:58 KK: She's a mid-defender, but they had her forward for a little bit. But also going back to what you said about running, I think for everybody, that's a universal, run with agility and everything.

15:12 JT: Yeah, absolutely. I did uphill sprints for a long time. And I loved just the results I got from that, and how much easier it just felt running on flat ground, and the benefits of that.

15:26 KK: Oh, man. That is daunting, and I think I heard you say uphill sprint a few times. I'm like, "Oh man, that's... "

15:30 JT: Yeah. You're like, "Oh, boy."

15:31 KK: Yeah. One day. Well, as you moved in your late teens and early 20s, did your workouts and your diets change as you grew older?

15:41 JT: Absolutely. When I was younger in high school, or even college, I had no focus on diet, really. I just went with what my parents were telling me. I kinda had an idea I shouldn't be eating candy, or shouldn't be eating this or that, but back then I ate processed bread or...

16:03 KK: Anything you wanted, right?

[chuckle]

16:03 JT: Yeah, pretty much anything I wanted. I was young and I was growing and I was hungry, and I was lifting. Back then, I didn't really focus on it. With my training as well, it was... I didn't really lift a ton until I got into college. And then going into the later years of college and professional baseball, my biggest change was when I had surgery... Or my two surgeries, sorry. I had hip and shoulder surgery one week apart in 2012. Yeah, 2012. And I remember, before my surgery, I was in the clubhouse and I saw a local player that was from my area, who's also with Oakland A's, I saw him after his surgery and he just like... He was huge. He blew up, no diet, no nothing. And I remember seeing him and I was just like, "Oh, my gosh, I am not gonna let that happen to me." I would rather work from being too skinny, losing too much weight, from not being able to workout or do anything because of my surgeries and then build up, versus getting... "

17:19 KK: Blowing up and...

17:19 JT: Fat and overweight. [laughter] Let's call it what it is, getting fat and overweight.

17:22 KK: Yeah.

17:26 JT: So, that was really the biggest change for me. I saw him and I was just like, "I have this once in a lifetime opportunity to be a professional athlete, and I'm not gonna blow it by having a crappy diet." That's when I really flipped the switch. Unfortunately, since I had those two surgeries back to back, and I wasn't able to do anything for, gosh, nine months but rehab, I went from 215 pounds to 185, so I lost just 30 pounds, super skinny. But it was much easier to pack on weight, pack the weight back on, versus lose the fat and then pack the weight back on.

18:04 KK: And what I'm hearing you saying, too, is that it's really all about your discipline.

18:08 JT: For sure.

18:08 KK: You saw something and you were like, "I'm not gonna go down that road." But with that discipline and proper training... Did you say nine months, that was your rehab? That's a long time.

18:16 JT: Yeah, yeah. And actually, that was pretty quick. Generally, a torn labrum in your shoulder in your throwing arm is gonna take you a year, plus or minus, from the time you have surgery to the time you're cleared. My shoulder, honestly, probably didn't feel good until two years after. I was just pushing it. I just wanted to get back. I just wanted to be able to make a somewhat strong and accurate throw. I don't care if it hurt a little bit, I just wanted to get back to playing.

18:45 KK: Yeah, I can imagine. But it's good you've made that work for you as well. When you were playing pro baseball, did you change your diet and train differently in the off season than during the season?

18:56 JT: That's such a good question.

18:58 KK: Thank you.

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18:58 JT: Gosh. In the off season, I felt like it was a lot easier to get high quality foods. I could... Thankfully, there's Mother's Markets all over the place in Southern California. So, throughout my training day, I can just go there, load up on healthy juices, or protein shakes, or protein bars, or grab a banana, or just get everything I needed for the day, and then head out to the training day. Whereas, during the season, you don't have that stuff readily available. You could be in the middle of nowhere, and closest thing is a gas station, and it's just terrible.

19:36 KK: That's a podcast in and of itself.

19:38 JT: Seriously.

[chuckle]

19:39 KK: What do you get in the middle of nowhere, in Circle K or something, that's healthy?

19:43 JT: Yeah, exactly. Snickers bar, I don't know. [chuckle] And then from a training perspective, in the off season, it was more about building, getting stronger, getting faster, more focused on developing your skills, which you can do during the season, but you have more time during the off season to do that. And then during the season, it's more about maintenance. I wasn't trying to get stronger or faster, or any of that stuff. I was just trying to maintain, and really I was just trying to not feel sore or hurt, 'Cause it's... You're literally playing every day.

20:21 KK: All the time.

20:22 JT: People see the 7:00 PM to 10:00 PM game, and they're like, "Oh, baseball is so easy, you play every day." But it's like, "No," I had 10:00 AM weights. We had a bus through the middle of night. I got in at 6:00 AM, and I slept on the ground on the bus."

20:39 KK: So that's the stuff...

20:39 JT: Which means I didn't really sleep.

20:40 KK: Right. I was gonna say...

20:41 JT: So now I'm not recovering. Wake up in the middle of the morning, get into the hotel room, sleep for a little bit, and then gym. So, it's just... For me, it was really just trying to maintain my strength and not get injured.

20:57 KK: And that's so key. Your book will probably be coming out one day, right?

21:02 JT: Maybe. Yeah, maybe I need one.

21:04 KK: And you can write the roadmap. [chuckle] This is great information, and especially for the young athletes today. But right now we have to take a quick break, more in a minute. Don't go away, we will be right back.

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21:46 KK: And now back to our interview with former pro baseball player and personal trainer, Jordan Tripp, and we're talking about exercise and diet and through each phase of life, as you're working with the kids. Quickly, when we were just talking, I was asking you about your parents. Were they athletes, and did they help you with your nutrition?

22:04 JT: Yeah, they were. Yeah. My dad played football. He was O-line and D-line, and he had some opportunities in college, and some things in life didn't allow him to do that. But both my parents were definitely very athletic growing up. And one thing, I think, my parents did a really good job of, just in addition to raising me as a young man, but pushing me as an athlete, not yelling at me but encouraging me to work hard at practice, do better in games, work hard. They didn't let me make excuses. If there was times that I wasn't feeling practice or I wasn't doing... Or just things going on.

22:46 KK: Right. You're being a kid, right.

22:47 JT: Being a kid.

22:48 KK: Yeah.

22:48 JT: They were just like, "Hey, no, stay focused. You're not missing practice today. You're not doing that." So, I think my parents, I love them both so much, and they've done so many great things for me just throughout my entire life. But in terms of sports, they really helped me in so many ways.

23:05 KK: I love to hear that, good. You're obviously a fit guy, and I just wanna know what you eat on a normal day and how much exercise you get weekly.

23:14 JT: Yeah. Weekly, I try to work out around five to six days a week. And I've cut my workouts down to anywhere from 45-60 minutes of just intense training, focused training, put the phone away and just get to work. In terms of eating, gosh, I eat a lot.

23:33 KK: Okay, whatever, don't brag.

[chuckle]

23:35 JT: I need to eat a lot, it's so crazy. My biggest thing with my diet is getting a healthy balance of carbs, protein and fats. I love fish. I think getting a healthy dose of omega-3 is important. Most people are deficient in it. In addition, consuming chicken and eggs, those have omega-6 in it, which can lead to some inflammation. Again, that's a whole another podcast. Right?

24:02 KK: Right.

24:05 JT: I just eat a wide variety of stuff. I love almond butters, I love avocado, I love getting my healthy fats from there. Mixing in, like I said, the wild salmon, free range chicken, free range eggs. And then sweet potatoes, I'm big on sweet potatoes, and roasted veggies. And it's funny, as a kid, I wasn't. I was never big on that. But now, I can just throw in mushrooms, broccoli, cauliflower into a pan, roast it up, and I'm good to go.

24:35 KK: And it's funny because now they hide all those veggies with the... Especially the sweet potatoes you mentioned, there's just different recipes for that.

24:43 JT: Oh, absolutely.

24:45 KK: So, just because not everybody can see what you look like, how tall are you?

24:48 JT: I'm 6'4". And I'm about 200 pounds.

24:51 KK: Okay, perfect. I was gonna say... So, a diet for you and you're fit. And a diet for me is totally different. I'm only 5'1". [chuckle] So, I'm thinking... When you say you eat a lot, are they small meals all throughout the day? Or are they big... Tell me a little bit about what that looks like.

25:07 JT: I generally have two to three big meals a day, depending on my schedule, and then I'll snack throughout the day. Fortunately I'm close to Mother's Market, so I can just go right in there and I swoop up some overnight oats or some protein bars or protein shakes. And I just make sure that I pack that with me, or if I know I'm gonna be near a grocery store, I plan that into my day because I know how important a diet is for me and what it does for my body. I'm always on the go, whether I'm training athletes or I have real estate deals that I'm working on. I'm always moving, and if I don't have good food in me, I don't function as well as I can.

25:50 KK: Do you get hangry?

[chuckle]

25:51 JT: I do, I get very hangry. [chuckle] And I get hangry quickly. I'm like, "Gosh, it's only been an hour, what's going on here?" Then I'm like, "Oh, yeah, I had an intense workout, so my body is starving."

26:00 KK: I have to teach my son to, "There is a store right here, you know how to do that."

26:04 JT: Yeah, exactly.

26:05 KK: As we age, how should our diets and physical fitness levels change as we get older?

26:12 JT: Well, I think that depends on the individual and their goals, but I just think it's important to stay active and avoid processed foods. People don't realize how much damage those really... Those foods really do to your body. Whenever I'm talking with any clients or athletes, I just reinforce using foods as the ingredients, versus buying packaged foods that have a huge ingredient list with ingredients you can't even pronounce. So, I think, again, it's important to stay active. And whatever that is, it could be... You could be 60 years old, and active for you may mean a light jog and a walk after. Or it could mean swimming, it could mean playing golf or playing a sport with your grandson.

27:03 KK: Yeah.

27:04 JT: I think there's a lot of different things that you can do as you get older, just to stay active.

27:08 KK: I like that. You have the family time in there, too, that's important.

27:11 JT: Absolutely. I have a beautiful 7-year-old daughter, and any chance I get to do something with her outdoors, I take advantage of it.

27:20 KK: That's great. When you're training... And we talked a little bit about this, but you're training older clients and you're training the young ones. But say, for your older clients over 50, how do you adjust their workouts compared to younger clients? You talked a little bit about golf and jogging and walking, but tell me a little bit... What does weight training look like for somebody over 50?

27:41 JT: Right. No, it's a great question. Well, for me, at least some of the clients that I train, instead of incorporating some type of difficult Olympic lift, maybe like a front squat or a back squat or a deadlift or a power clean, something like that where generally my younger clients can execute flawlessly in terms of technically and then moving around the weight well, I'll sub out dumbbell work for that with those clients. Or instead of doing a front squat here, I'll have them hold a dumbbell, or maybe they're doing reverse lunges with dumbbells at the side, something like that, something where they're still getting their work in without putting their body at risk for injury. 'Cause, as you get older, slow down a little bit. You can't move as well. Maybe your joints are a little achy, maybe a little sore, maybe you don't have as much flexibility and mobility to even execute some of the movements that you could when you were younger, so I just modify. I'm all about preventing injury and achieving goals.

28:46 KK: And achieving goals, which I think is really great, obviously, you're setting those right in the beginning. How about the core, our core?

28:53 JT: Yes, core strength. Core strength is huge. I do core a lot. Yeah, that's kinda your staple, right? Everything moves from there.

29:05 KK: Right.

29:05 JT: So, it's important to have a strong core, stabilized. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to have a six-pack or an eight-pack, but you definitely need a strong core.

29:15 KK: Yeah. Are there specific workout programs that you endorse?

29:21 JT: Me, personally, I love... I still love my Olympic lifts. I love deadlifts, I love power cleans. Even front squats, probably more so than back squats, I love that little added core work that front squats give me. But then I also love hit training. I love doing some type of circuit, whether it's... I have to do 10 power cleans, add a lighter weight. And then right after I gotta get into pull-ups. And then right after, I gotta do a sprint. I love movements like that. I guess I don't endorse a particular style for my clients just 'cause, again, everyone is so different and everyone has different needs. But I think a combination of all of them can work for anyone.

30:12 KK: There are... You kind of answered that a little bit about certain diet or... Oh, well, I'll get to that in a second. But working out, dancing for women or boxing or anything, do you incorporate that as well?

30:25 JT: Yeah, absolutely.

30:26 KK: Do you dance?

30:28 JT: I have danced. I went on this show on Fox, called Flirty Dancing. That was fun. [laughter] I'm sure my buddy over there threw that out. That's great.

30:38 KK: This is things that we didn't know about Jordan Tripp.

30:41 JT: Yeah. Yeah.

30:41 KK: What was that experience like?

30:43 JT: That was crazy. You know what's funny is, I was... My arches and my calves were so sore.

30:49 KK: Really?

30:50 JT: Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

30:51 KK: Wait, I just have to say something. I went to school a long time ago. I went to a performing arts school thinking I was gonna be on Broadway, but that never happened. But my daughter now, 'cause she's an athlete... So, I danced, I was on toe and all of this, and she's like, "You're not an athlete, you don't know." But now I want you to say it 'cause I'm gonna play this back for her.

31:09 JT: Yeah. Oh, you are an athlete if you're a dancer, it's crazy.

[laughter]

31:13 KK: Right?

31:14 JT: Oh, my gosh, yeah. I was exhausted after the practice, after the practice day. My choreographer was Sharna Burgess, who was on Dancing with the Stars, and she was so great. The host was Jenna Dewan, who's amazing. But, yeah, I was sore, just like different body parts, you know what I mean?

31:30 KK: That you didn't even know you had.

31:31 JT: Yeah. Even part of my glute was sore, I'm like, "Gosh, what is that from?" I'm like, "Oh my... " My arch is sore, calves sore. It was a super fun experience but, yes, I have a new level of respect for dancers because it is...

31:42 KK: 'Cause it's a real thing, right?

31:43 JT: It's definitely a workout.

31:45 KK: That's great. I'm so glad, I can't wait. We're gonna have to find out what time we said this so I can... [laughter] Now, going back to what we were talking a little bit about, certain type of workouts for clients, what about a certain type of diets for clients?

31:58 JT: Oh, that's a great question. That's a great question, and it's a tough question because there are so many different diets that work for one but may also not work for another because of allergy restrictions, or maybe someone wants to be vegan or gluten-free, or maybe they don't eat meat or something like that. I think what really is best is just finding what works for you, finding the right ratio, in terms of how many carbs, grams of carbs, protein or fats you're taking in, and then controlling your calories. Like you mentioned earlier, I'm 6'4", 200 pounds, and I workout however long each day. I'm gonna require a different calorie intake than, let's say, for example, you are.

32:45 KK: Right, exactly.

32:45 JT: Yeah. So, I think that's the most important, is understanding your body, your needs, and playing with your calories. I still even do that to this day. Sometimes I'll have a tough workout day, and I'll think I ate enough because it's usually what I eat. And then I'll find that I'm still hungry, so I just go eat. I'll go eat again. I'm like, "Gosh, I really... "

33:12 KK: That must be a nice problem to have.

[chuckle]

33:14 JT: I'm like "Man, I ate a lot, what's going on here?" That actually happened two days ago.

33:18 KK: But that's good though because you're listening to what your body is telling you.

33:20 JT: Yeah, listen to your body and just make adjustments as you go. I've done that so many times. I preach that to my athletes, it's like, "Hey, you need to find what works for you and go that route. What works for you may not work for me."

33:35 KK: But let me ask you this, too. Obviously you've been working out for such a long period of time, but do you feel like when you work out more, you crave healthier foods?

33:45 JT: I do, and I also feel like I just got into a routine. And I'm just super disciplined, and I feel so good when I eat healthy that I just... When I don't eat healthy or I eat something that maybe isn't the greatest for me, I feel it.

34:01 KK: You feel it right away.

34:01 JT: My stomach feels it. I don't feel as energized. So, I try to stay super disciplined and focus on just eating quality foods. It's not like I deprive myself of anything, other than some crazy ice creams and stuff like that, but I still will enjoy some of those things. One thing that I really like that's kind of a dessert, it's from Mother's Market, it's called their apple pie, or apple fritter thing, or something like that. It's got dates, almonds, coconuts, cashews, cranberries, and it's like a little square dessert thing, almost like a brownie.

34:39 KK: Wow. And that will...

34:40 JT: Yeah. So, I'll have that, right, versus having...

34:43 KK: A Ding Dong.

[chuckle]

34:45 JT: A cupcake from somewhere else or, yeah, Dunkin' Donuts or something. 'Cause I know my body, I just would not feel well after eating that, and you're not getting any quality nutrients from it so it's not aligned with my goals.

34:56 KK: Right. And that's so... I think in the very beginning, you said that. It's really about your goals, where you wanna go, and then getting there and discipline.

35:04 JT: Yeah, of course. And again, my goals are probably different from someone else's, and if they wanna have that, totally fine.

35:11 KK: Rumor has it you're a grazer, eating little healthy snacks all day. You've been talking about those snacks. Can you name a couple of the other snacks that you really enjoy? I think you said bananas. What else?

35:22 JT: Yeah. I'll grab a couple of the snacks that I really like just to kinda help fuel me throughout the day. I'll grab coconut water, and I have a bunch of different brands just... Just look at the ingredient list on the back though because some of them add sugar and stuff like that, so just make sure you read the back. Ingredients should just say coconut water. I like GoMacro bars. Yeah, those are great. Perfect Bars, Tosi bars. Trying to think of all the ones that I eat. There's another one that's called Organic... I think it's just called Organic Protein Bar. And I've only found that one at Mother's Market, that's for sure, because every time I go there I always get it. Actually, I got one in the bag behind me.

[chuckle]

36:04 KK: We'll take a picture, how about that?

36:06 JT: Yeah. So, those are the snacks that I eat, and then just picking up little protein shakes. Or if I'm close enough, I'll go by a Pressed Juicery, and go grab one of those. But now they even sell those at Mother's Market, so now I can just knock everything out there.

36:19 KK: That's awesome, that's so great. I don't know. What about peanut butter and celery? Almond butter maybe, not peanut butter.

36:27 JT: Yeah. I do almond butter. I'll do almond butter and apples, almond butter and banana. And actually I've done that before, I used to keep a little almond thing in my car and scoop it on sometimes. What else do I do with that? Yeah, I love almond butter. I'm big on that as a snack. Get some protein and some fats in, and like you said, just throw it on some fruit.

36:47 KK: Yeah, that's great. Are you ever too old to workout?

36:51 JT: I don't think so. Again, like we talked about earlier, where I think you can just modify your workout, where it's like, if you're younger, maybe you're doing more gym training, maybe you're doing more Olympic lifts. Or if you're getting older, maybe you are cutting down those Olympic lifts, but you're still in the gym, you're still active. Or even older than that, maybe getting into your sixties or seventies, your workout now may be just a light jog and a walk, or walking on the sand, where it's a little more difficult. Or even jogging on the sand is even more difficult than obviously running on the street. Or swimming, or tennis, there are so many different things that you can do, I just think it's important to stay active, to stay healthy, and stay out there.

37:39 KK: That's great. Well, this has been great and very informational. Thank you so much for your time and some great advice today. In the meantime, we look forward to having you on again. You can get more information on Jordan, and the website is... What is your website?

37:53 JT: Www.jordantripp.com.

37:56 KK: T-R-I-P-P.

37:57 JT: Yep, P-P, you got it.

38:00 KK: So, we look forward to our next visit. Thank you.

38:02 JT: Yeah, thanks so much for having me on, I appreciate it.

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