The advice and informational content does not necessarily represent the views of mother's market and kitchen, mother's recommends consulting your health professional for your personal medical condition he... No, I'm Kimberly King, and welcome to the mother's market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, the effects of depression can be devastating, and sometimes people don't even realize they're suffering, today we'll discuss ways you can help combat those feelings through a natural healthy approach, plus later, we'll find out what's new and mother's markets and what's happening around town.

First up, we're pleased to welcome back one of the foremost authorities when it comes to a healthy body, Le Aron Kandel, MD has been practicing medicine for almost 25 years. She's the Founder and Medical Director of the Center for New Medicine located in Irvine, California, as well as the Medical Advisor for perfectly healthy products. And we welcome her back to the mother's radio show.

Dr. Kinney, how are you? Well, great to see you, Kim again. It's wonderful to be doing the mother's radio show, I just love mothers because they're just always trying to reach out and do everything possible to make people healthy and you know, it's amazing how many patients know about others, like everyone knows about mothers. It's an establishment, and so it's just great that they have extended their desire to the community to really, really educate and also provide wonderful food and services.

Why don't you fill our audience in a little bit on your mission and work before we get to the show's topic, it's the mission of myself and the Center for new medicine to educate and empower individuals and their families to live the best life possible.

You know, most people walk around not feeling well, and we wanna give people their life back... Today, we are talking about anxiety and depression, and as you said, giving people their lives back...

Well, if there's some different numbers out there, and it's been reported that over 15 million Americans suffer from depression, that's quite a few people out there that are affected from depression and anxiety, and we do, as you say, I wanna give people that like back... So, Dr. kennel, what are the common signs of anxiety and depression... Well, anxiety and depression. And we can kind of lump stress in there too, because I think anxiety, depression, stress, so your number went from 15 million to about what? 150 million.

So because that's what you kind of lump it all in, people will say, I'm really stressed, but it manifests itself in anxiety or depression or road, and so I think that it's a real dilemma and the thing about it is it's just like diabetes, a lot of people just don't know they have diabetes.

A lot of people have depression and don't know it, and a lot of people have anxiety and don't know it, and so it is a huge problem, but it's amazing the things that we can do to help someone get through their anxiety and depression.

A lot of people think they have to maybe pop a pill like Xanax or value, or they've got to go to their doctor and get Prozac or one of those kinds of medicines, but there are so much that we can do to alleviate the signs and really, really truly treat the illness. And when a person comes in with anxiety, you think... Maybe they're just going to tell you like, Exactly, I'm anxious, actually. That's not the case at all. People will say, You know, they're restless, or they're having heart palpitations, or their shortness of breath, or they can't sleep, or they have poor concentration, so it may not be exclusively I'm anxious, and I think I have anxiety, very view people... I mean, lots of people end up in the emergency room thinking they're having a heart attack and really are having an anxiety attack, so we have to be really, really careful as physicians to, first of all, make sure that someone is not suffering from a life-threatening illness, and they truly have anxiety, so wonderful things though, in the emergency rooms today, we know very quickly if someone's having an art art attack, so that naturally leads into our next question, and that is really our anxiety and depression diagnosed... Well, for me, anxiety, I have a great little questionnaire that I give my patients, and it's called the mood questionnaire, and I have them fill out because sometimes they're in the exam room and they don't communicate how they truly feel, or they don't know how to communicate how they truly feel... So I usually give the patients a little mood questionnaire and I can tell very quickly, very quickly what I would use as a remedy for that, and... So depression, I tell people is an illness like diabetes, it's not like you're gonna be that you're a bad person because your anxious are depressed, this is a true illness and you know, we're all born... Like I saw a patient today, I've seen her, she lives in San Diego, and I've seen it for probably, oh gosh, 10 years, and she drives up to see me because we had a developed a special relationship and she feels very comfortable with me, and I really appreciate that, and I understand that because she knows that I can decipher, but today, she came into saying, you know, she goes really dirty, I just know I'm really an anxious person, and I finally come here, I am around 50, and I really feel that I'm just an anxiety written person, and she goes, You know, and I said, she goes, I told her, I said, You know, you're kind of born like that.

I said, You really are. And I said, So you're learning what you have to learn how to do is manage it as opposed to it managing you.

Because I said God made you this way, and it's not like, Don't hit yourself over the head. Because you have it, we're gonna teach you how to manage it, so that kind of person would lead, need meditation, they can use little things like 5 HTP, which stands for Five hydroxy trip Ivan. What helps, which helps you be very calm and peaceful during the day, and so... But there's nothing wrong with that. I tell people, this is who you are, don't be yourself up because of who you are, and if your depression, please seek help, please. And when you go to the doctor, be truthful and honest with them, and if that person isn't listening go to another person... 'cause there's someone who's going to be able to help you and listen to you.

How can we prevent anxiety and stress. Can you address that?

First and foremost, sleeping well, it's kind of intro. I always ask patients, I said, What do you think people in the year 1900? How many hours did they sleep, and they always go, Oh, probably nine or 10. I said yes, because they didn't have TV and computers and all these things to keep you Wired and quite a way, and they didn't have all the electricity in their bedrooms, I said, But we're... The electrical generation, people, electricity was invented, and so now we're all awakened stimulated by the dirty electricity and the desire to immediately and constantly stay in communication with our phones and computers and TV and email, etcetera. And so that is probably the first thing. But get a good night sleep. So what is a good night sleep? I would say about eight hours, I would say a person needs to sleep eight hours, and a North doesn't mean going to sleep and waking up two hours later, or three hours are 5 out, 'cause a lot of people will say... I look on their questionnaire on, okay, how many hours did you sleep? How many times did you wake up... They'll go the WKU at two or three times. No, that is not sleeping. Sleeping is going to bed at 10 PM and waking up at 6 AM. That's sleeping eight hours. And the reason why you need that, because your brain is repairing, your body is repairing. You're getting chemical balancing from a good night sleep.

So I would say the first and foremost thing is that beautiful, peaceful sleep.

Let's talk about other things. Diet. What do people eat? You have to eat your medicines, period, I tell everyone this, it's like I have a cancer patient, I go, You have to eat your chemotherapy, you have to eat life-sustaining food and life-sustaining food that has wonderful life force and wonderful ingredients to keep your biochemistry alive.

There's nowhere getting out of this, you can't eat dead food every day, every meal, occasionally you're gonna eat dead food occasionally, but you can... You have to eat live food, you have to eat live fruits and vegetables, you have to eat things that have life force, so if you wanna make brain chemicals that make you happy and balanced and in control and not losing it and good concentration, you have to eat a balance of fruits and vegetables, you have to e-proteins 'cause proteins are the building blocks, those were the amino acids, and all the brain chemicals are made from amino acids, like serotonin, like Turkey is made from mixed trip to fan. pumpkin seeds make trip a fan. A lot of our food makes the brain chemicals that makes us happy and glad and calm and peaceful, and so if you don't have good fats, if you don't have good essential fatty acids, like fish oils, like UDO organic oils, black seeds be cons and walnuts and pumpkin seeds, all those sources are essential fatty acids, and they're called essential because you have to have them, they're not called the Central 'cause that's just the name, they're essential because you have to have them, so you have to have this beautiful balance of good carbohydrates, which are fruits and vegetables, your protein, which is me, chicken, fish, a, Roches, beans, those kinds of things, and then you've got to have fats, and people are always confused about bats and fats, they think that's make you fat... No, or your cookies make you fat, Sea makes you fat, and she does make you fat and potato chips and this Dead bread that you eat makes you fat, so if you wanna be alive and functioning and have good brain, good immune system, we're talking about brain and anxiety and depression, you have to eat foods that marriage... That neuro chemistry of the brain to make it work. Oh my. Did you say sleep? What's that? Yeah, the sleep thing, of course, that I know there are so many more other factors, what are the most effective anxiety and depression treatment... What else can you say?

So there's lots of other little remedies to that besides, okay, we have to start with sleep, I tell people before I fix anything, we have to fix sleep, then your diet and people really need to be mindful of their diet, but the other really critical thing is exercise and it was interesting, I had a guy come in today and he works at Parker Hennepin, and he was saying, Oh God, Dr. Conti just cannot sit for nine hours on my desk all day, I have to get up 'cause I get ADD and I can't think and I can concentrate, and I said, You know, that shows you the power of exercise, 'cause what happens when you go exercise... What happens, your head clears, you feel calm, you get peaceful in, your circulation is help you get oxygen to your body, what a concept, and we now, because we are the electrical generation, everybody sits to do everything, No, you have to be a moving machine, you have to move all the time.

Every chance you get... It doesn't matter. I remember when I had twins, and I had... My twins are now 17 and a half, and it's kind of interesting, when they became potty-trained, I started putting on weight because they did not need my services of changing the 00 diapers a day anymore.

So it is very important to keep your body moving. And I tell people five minutes is better than zero minutes, so they say, I don't have time, everybody has time for five minutes of exercise, get up and move, and let's say you get tired after five minutes... Do five minutes three times a day. But you have to exercise. It's not something optional. The reason why you have muscles all over your body and your brain is because it's designed to move...

Okay, so we've handled sleep, diet, exercise. Oh gosh, we can talk so much about this because you got the trifecta going about depression and anxiety, and we have so much more to talk about. Interesting information, Dr. kaali, as always, you amaze me and everybody else, right now we have to go. Take a quick break. We will be right back. Don't go anywhere in your welcome back to the mother's market radio show, and we want to remind you that if you missed any portion of today's show, you can find us on iTunes by searching mother's market or download the show from our website, mothers market dot com, click the link on radio and listen to the past shows, plus download our Healthy Recipes and money savings coupons. Don't forget those. All available, smart dot com.

And now, back to our interview with Dr. koei, we're talking about anxiety and depression, and what you can do to better understand and treat the problem, so Dr. S, you talked about getting enough sleep and exercise and our diets and given us all those tools to just get us back into shape here as far as our depression and anxiety.

Okay, so Dr. S what are the most effective anxiety and depression treatments? The best way to treat anxiety and depression, there's lots of things out there besides we talked about earlier, sleeping and diet and exercise, but Supplement-wise, I love to use essential fatty acids for my patients who don't mind fish oils, I give them fish oils, and if they... Don't like fish. I use a vegetarian formula, usually of UDO organic oils, so lots of those, they usually come in 1000 milligram pills, and so I usually use, oh gosh, anywhere from 6000 to 10000 milligrams a day, there's no downside or danger to using Fils, it's just wonderful. For every single cell in your body, then next thing I would use for depression and anxiety, or anxiety and depression is a good multivitamin, a good multi because of good multi provides the energetic resources for all the cells to work.

Another thing is be complex, complex, the complex helps the nervous system, and so... And it helps in the transmission of nerve impulses, so that's also very beneficial.

Now, if we talk about some targeted nutrients for depression, there's lots of different things that have been very well studied, if you look at St. John's wort, which is an herb, wonderful herb that has been... I've used St. John's wort for probably or 15 years for depression, also 5 HTP, which is sold in every health food store called Five hydroxy trip to fan, it's absolutely wonderful for anxiety, for depression, for cravings, for addictions. And it works immediately, it works as soon as you take it, it works within 30 minutes.

You have Gaba, Gaba, Mino, Butera acid, which is just in another amino said that works great for anxiety and strapped, I call people... It's our natural value. gab, don't forget that those people out there Stressed Out at this very moment, and then you have... You have something called norepinephrine, and a lot of times you can use phenol, alanine and tyrosine, those two main assets help you make those happy hormones, there is a great herb called McCune macnab mechanics. Great dopamine. Well, dopamine is, I wanna feel good, I wanna find pleasure reward in things, and that really helps your dopamine production, so there's so many just natural things and... Well, one of those things you always talk about is the PMA Positive Mental Attitude, while PMA positive mental Antigua, always important fact, I had to tell a guide today I was in a funk, and I said, First of all, you need to think... You need to have an attitude of gratitude first and foremost, and I said, think about... Just think about reality. I go, You're walking in here with tennis shoes, you have pants on, you have a shirt on, you have a job, you have a watch... I don't know, I don't think... I'll think I am to Peter shop. I said, You had food today, and I said, How many little kids die a day from no food? So I said, Get an attitude of gratitude. Then also meditation, meditation is wonderful for really everything meditation means to establish order, and we all need order in our lives, and so because the world is chaotic, and so the more order we have, the better our minds and bodies function.

So in meditation has a plethora of studies showing the actual benefits of meditation, so a lot of times I'll give my patients a meditation tape to regularly use, and so... And people can just meditate, they go, Well, you know, I pray. Artillery-ing is communicating.

Meditation is listening.

So I say it's a very big difference, so it's great to pray, but we need to be quiet and also meditate and listen, 'cause we all don't take enough inventory of ourselves and say, Okay, what is... Let me take... Lets us do some self-inventory, what's really, really happening with me, because that's how you're going to be able to take care of yourself in a complete holistic way when you yourself take inventory, because we also have to think, we're not just affecting ourselves, we're affecting the guy next to us, the woman next to us, we're affecting our family, and if we're out of order, they're gonna be out of order because this is a universe and we're all universally connected, so we all need to learn how to live peacefully, harmoniously and lovingly all the time Well, that's for sure, because if it Mama's not happy, then nobody's happy, that's what I like to say in my household, usefully. harmoniously and loving way.

Okay, well then then that goes right into the next question. And what is cortisol? Let's talk about that and how is that related to stress, cortisol, cortisol? What is cortisol? Everybody's heard to cortisol these days, especially the last three years, we've had outrageous stress, so everybody is making a little extra cortisol, and you know, you hear those commercials, I'll manage your cortisol with this herb or this thing. And because it'll help you lose weight.

Well, you know, it's kind of true, but cortisol is that hormone made by our adrenal glands in our little adrenal glands, they're little, but quite mighty and powerful, and people don't know about adrenal glands because really... Doctors never discuss it. It's never talked about unless you really seek out and read about it, but be adrenal glands or glands that sit on top of our kidneys, like little wall nuts or little hats, however you wanna do it, but they make hundreds of hormones unlike any other gland in the body, the adrenals are power for hormones and it's what keeps you alive, if you had no cortisol, you wouldn't wake up, if you didn't have any adrenal glands, you literally would not be alive. You would not be living.

So cortisol is very important for keeping your life and too much of it isn't good.

So what happens if you get too much of it? Well, how do you get too much of it? Well, you get too much of it is. When your body gets stressed, when you have just experienced a car accident while the cortisol is flooding your body and every cell in your body... But what's so bad about that? Well, what's so bad about that is cortisol makes you sick, it interferes with healing, you can't think... It destroys brain cells, increases your cancer risk. It is not good for you. It makes you gain weight. Okay, and who... What woman and what man on the planet today needs any help doing that? So cortisol, a chronically elevated levels of cortisol are not good for you at all, if you've got to manage it and control it... Okay, well, that goes right into the next question. And that is about adrenal fatigue, what is that and how does stress affect adrenal fatigue, and when a patient comes in the office, they're fatigued, so you're trying to figure, okay, like Why are you fatigue? Like what is it? Well, one big area that I always check is hormones, 'cause hormones are so they're the natural drugs of your body, and they could control every single function of your body, and we look at one in particular adrenals, the adrenal glands make over 100 hormones, and when patients adrenals like, let's say they had chronic stress for five years, okay, so they make extra adrenal glands and they make extra cortisol and extra of everything, and then all of a sudden what happens one day, boom, crash, the adrenals crashed, and I know everybody can relate to that because it's like, you know what, it's hard to move one foot in front of the other, but they experience like literally an adrenal crash. And what is that? It's like, you're not making cortisol. What does cortisol... What Cortisol allows you to wake up, it helps you to keep your blood pressure controlled, it helps you control your heart rate, it controls your sugar level, it controls your circulation, it controls how much blood gets to your brain, I mean... You know, just like everything. So you just do not feel good if you don't have great adequate cortisol production, so this adrenal fatigue that you're experiencing is just that wiped out feeling, and I exercise and I feel horrible.

Okay, that is just not normal.

So what kind of stress people feel in their every day lives, every person... And everybody has the potential to be stressed with their job, let's say you have the salesperson, sales, it's like every day, every day you now gotta make so much sales to... In order to have my job or to have an income, 'cause some people in their sales job, their whole income is related to how much they'll say, do it's not... They don't have a guaranteed salary, or let's talk about the doctor who has to the neurosurgeon who has to perform brain surgery on someone 11 hours. Okay, it's hard to be calm under those circumstances, or let's say someone is a race car driver and a race car driver. Okay, granted he's not stressed the whole time preparing, but when he's in the race car, he has got to have that surge of adrenaline and cortisol producing if you have a cop who is constantly under... Okay, constantly. Okay, under severe situations where they've got a gunshot or they're doing a car chasing or there's just to know, a fire, you're gonna have... You're gonna have extreme levels of cortisol and then when people have to perform, they have to perform for eight hours straight under extreme duress, and so you have these elevated cortisol loves and then, yes, you do crash after that, and if your body does not have a really good adaptation to that change, some people, they just can ramble through life and they're fine, but there's other people they need, first of all, rest helps you... Rest helps replenish, but at the same time, there are nourishing ingredients that you may need to take to strengthen, enhance your adrenal glands, they have these class of herbs called Adapt, Dogen like Ashland and rodeo, and those are great, wonderful herbs that help you adapt to all the extreme highs and lows of light, that's such a great tip, Dr. S, and that really does go along with what you told us earlier about getting an obsolete diet and exercise, we sleep diet and exercise is the foundation for you to handle life in general, so you need to do that foundational... That's like I told the cancer patient today, I said, I'm trying to... We're trying to fight your cancer, but all these other body parts aren't working, how are you gonna fight the cancer of the other body parts aren't working, and so that's what patients... 'cause they go to their doctor and their doctor says, Oh, you have his cancer, let me blast you with this bombshell chemo I'll give me while their kid's not working well, I mean... How is that gonna work?

No, it's not gonna work.

So what would you do if you are experiencing stress, anxiety and depression, get eight hours sleep, and make sure your sleep is a sleep sanctuary that you're actually sleeping, eat foods that have vibrant energy and have wonderful and great and set nourishing and strengthening your body.Exercise, even if you have five minutes, exercise every chance you have the opportunity to move, move your body, and last probably but not least is meditate, meditate and connect with nature. The best way we have to live in this hustle bustle world with electrical activity going on all over is to connect with nature, walk on sand, walk on dirt, walk on natural stone, touch a flower, huge try.

Well, that is so important, and I totally agree with you there. Watch a sunset and has great information.Loved chatting with you, and of course, I love how you always tell it like it is. Thank you so much for your time, Dr. kaali, and we look forward to having you on again in the mean time, you can catch more of Dr. kaali on her radio show, healthy wealthy and wise, on serious XM channel 131, or visit her online, a perfectly healthy dot net.

We look forward to our next visit. Thank you so much.

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