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But first up, Dr. Virginia Von-Shafer is a retired vascular surgeon at the Center for New Medicine in Irvine. She now provides bio-integrative consultations to patients of all ages in a variety of clinical settings, she joins the staff at Cancer Center for Healing in an effort to bring a broad range of patient care, the experience and knowledge to this progressive community of caregivers. Their passion is utilizing the basic principles of cell biology biochemistry to solve medical problems, and her focus is to evaluate and treat the whole person, taking into account the mind, body and spirit connection to restore biochemical balance.

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We welcome her to the mother's market Podcast, Dr. Von Schaefer, how are you? I'm great come. How are you today?

Right, thank you so much for being here, and why don't you fill our audience in a little bit on your mission and your work before we get to today's show topic... Well, I think when I went to medical school... Well, prior to going to medical school, my undergraduate degree, the final one that I got was in Biochemistry and Selig, and that was just at the time when electron microscopy was first widely used, and what that enabled researchers to do is to visualize the surfaces of cells and molecules and create, even organelle, the little things inside the cell, so all these things kids in grade school talk about now, but in those days we're talking about in mitochondria, and the way I function was like big news ribosomes, all kinds of the cells and organelles were... My professor, Eric Coleman at Columbia was, wrote the first textbook on sales and organelles, so it was a very... Was late breaking news, and they were discovered aspects of the cell surface that were just beautiful, really, where there would be a protein that would be hiding an active site, and it would be nature and unfold like a book opening at a certain temperature. And so then the active site would be revealed and molecules could hop on, so there's all this huge dynamic aspect of the way messengers in the body work, whether their hormones or other neuro chemicals.

So I thought, Wow, this is great. We're gonna use all this stuff to solve medical problems, but that wasn't really so at that time, there was... And probably still is a huge fascination with producing a lot of drugs, so when I was in medical school, we started out with penicillin and all that, and one first generation sepals born, by the time I graduated four years later, we were into our seventh generation of Southwest borns, and there were a lot of drug trials in Columbia, that was kind of a big thing, they were always trying to figure out what to do next with a new drug, so there was a lot of emphasis on pharmacology and not really utilizing these mechanisms of chemical action or the biologic function on a microscopic level that could potentially be applied to medical problem-solving, so I went... I did an internship in medicine that I went on to study surgery and became a Jonas UAR surgeon, and I loved anatomy, I thought it was very beautiful. And I enjoyed the practice of surgery at that time because we conducted all of our intensive care by ourselves as a surgeon, so I learned a lot about metabolism and endocrinology and trauma and all those kinds of things that I still use today, but it just wasn't what I really wanted to do...

I had a spinal cord injury and just did the completion of all of my surgical studies, I had 23 years of post-graduate education, and I got hit in the back of my neck by a 300-pound person, and I had a C, 4 C-5 total cord contusion in my arms and legs were numb for two and a half years, and I had to stop operating immediately, so my surgical career... And those moments disappeared. And in the process of helping myself get better, because I had a lot of issues, and I was at the age where I was kind of thrown into early menopause and all those things that take and go wrong went wrong all at once. And so I had to do a lot of metabolic problem of solving for myself to get myself back to some health and ability to function, and because this career that I had loved so much and studied for and trained for was basically taken from me, I had to look and figure out what else I could do.

So I meant a physician who worked kind of in an integrative sort of way on his own and learned about biomedical hormone therapy and all these other things, and then I just started back off with picking up what I wanted to do all along in the beginning, but just didn't have the forum to do, I guess, and because of the work I was doing well, now you're addressing your passions, and it's come from a place where... Yeah, you felt at first hand, so I love the way you've bounced back.

Today we're talking about the latest integrative new cancer treatments and testing, doctor, and I really wanted to see how you came to treat... How do you come to treat cancer patients from your background, so I'm so happy I ask me that because I love treating cancer patients because it's the number one place you can make these two tracks of information, the biochemistry in the cell biology and the rest of the conventional world, you can bring them together and integrate them and use all of these tools to help people get better, and when you do that, you get profound... Really sometimes miraculous results. It's a really beautiful thing. So for me, it's kind of a full circle in my life that I'm able to do this, I treated a trait, but I took care of my sister for four years when she had leukemia and then transformed into an aggressive lymphoma, and I saw first-hand how conventional treatment really wasn't very successful, you can take the chemotherapy, it'll kill rapidly dividing cells, it'll make the tumor balls go away, but they're gonna come back.

Yeah, and my sister loved her Cheerios, which actually has the highest concentration of round-up that it... Myosin, know that, put that back on the shelf is an sugar... She like sugar a lot too, which is really bad for treating cancer patients, so when I finished my little project with my sister when she finally passed away... It took me about a year to get off the couch and then I decided, Okay, I have no money and I have to work. And so I thought, I think this is what I wanna do. And I did do research in cancer when I was a surgical resident, I worked for a gal who was trained at City of Hope, and we did an experiment with rats to see if infusion of 5 FU directly into the liver would cure their liver cancer, but it didn't it still doesn't do?

So when you have a patient that comes in or just... And you're meeting them, how do you... We evaluate your cancer patients specifically, well, bone thing is, people are very complex and they're terrified. I think the one thing we try to do is, yes, understand everything that they've done before and where they're at, and then also dispel fear, there is a very specific biochemistry of thought that you must understand and respect in all of us. Okay.

My teacher said, Never use this word in public, but I love to... Anyway, it's called Icon aids. So there are essential fatty acids that are present in our bodies for only 1-9000th of a second, it's not like people do a lot of research on them, it's a little bit more now than before, but these icons are released when we have certain thoughts, negativity, there are two tracks that can be triggered, and this is kind of the union yang, a body biochemistry, there's either the cellular warfare defense pyramid and cascade reactions that ends in a very potent Vasoconstriction, and when people are angry and afraid, you can see their skin gets wider, I don't know that you can see things happen in our circulation, this is... That's what it is in action. And then the other pathway is really related to peace time, regrowth and repair, so God made us to have both of these pathways, but they are mutually exclusive, so you can't be at war and at peace at the same time, so when we have patients who are terrified with their illness and the potential of what can happen, obviously they're worried about they're gonna die and all that, we have to somehow get them out of that beer mentality, which is that also fight flight or... Exactly, in a lot of people talk about sympathetic, parasympathetic, but I like people to think about these things because these entities, because this for something that's self-leading, it can control your physiology, not for just minutes and hours, but days and weeks. So you have to really think about how you think about things, even though it's fleeting and it comes in, but it's a tree, the trigger is bleeding, but the side effect can be prolonged.

Okay, got it.

And so when we are dealing with cancer, obviously we're dealing with multiple physiologic issues, and we're dealing with a rapid cycling of sales that don't belong, and curating the immortal instead of dying in 120 days, they can live up to 20 years.

Now, it's a project.

Well, and so this sets you apart, my next question was about conventional oncologist, but because you really go, conventional oncologists are limited these days, it's an unfortunate situation because I had this experience with my sister, we'd go in the oncologist office for the infusion, there's candy bowls everywhere. In send is talking about diet modification, it's just come get the poison and go, and it kind of feeds into the mentality that we have in our society, in many societies, that there's a magic pill for you and then whatever problem you have... Okay, if it is an out now, we're gonna develop before, so just wait. We'll give it to you then.

Okay, so kind of... They don't encourage people to take responsibility for how they treat their bodies and what they do, what they eat, what they think, or anything really, and just take the drug, and unfortunately, Asiatic agents, conventional chemotherapeutic agents, kill cells in a toxic manner, and it creates a huge mess for the immune system to clean up... That's the clean up crew.

So you get cancer because your immune system is impaired, then you take a bunch of drugs that makes a bunch of cells die, and then you have even more mess and your immune system is even more impaired, so you get into this negative Catch-22 without... Ever addressing the underlying root cause and why your immune system is impaired and what can you do about it to help it. So I use chemotherapy and tiny doses, and it's very effective, but I think it's only effective because we use it with immune-boosting treatments so that we help the immune system get better.

If you don't do that, you're gonna lose, and the mainstay of treatment and conventional oncology is full dos chemotherapy and administering a somewhat kind of cookbook manner, it's all based on cell type stage and statistical response to a combination of drugs, and then their surgery. But many people are not offered surgery because they have a quote advanced stage at the time of their diagnosis that may not offer to them, and radiation therapy is creating a big burn.

So you're saying that not in the conventional way without the surgery, chemo and radiation, you get to the underlying root of the problem... Yeah, I mean, I use everything sometimes colon cancer, say for example, I've seen several people dying because they were denied a surgical resection... Wow. And why were they denied a perception because they had some tumor in their liver, and so that makes them stage for... And conventional people that... Oh no, I can't... Surgeons were always taught to cut to cure, so if you can't cure them, then don't cut them well, but if you... You can palate a person, and I like to try and make these patients who are inoperable operable candidates, and I have a very nice young woman whom I did help to do that with colon cancer and on somebody to operate upon her, and she may even have a... Small liver resection at this point, but part of the problem is just opening the minds of physicians to the fact that we have a lot of people to care for, and with this being a pandemic and estimated 50% of our population, you just can't tell these people to just go home and die. There's too many of them.

Yeah, and young person wants to live, so give them a chance to live. Yeah, you flip the script, basically is what you're doing, which is amazing. So can you talk about the new treatments that you offered that go beyond the three cancer regulation are... The cool thing is that I like to change the perspective of the way I focus on things, I use all these other techniques, but there's... The work of auto-Warburg, the biochemist, really provided us with a profound observation, all cancer cells make energy anaerobic ally, that means they don't use those little mitochondria to get screened 32 extra units of energy out of one molecule of glucose, it's just a... Two units of energy. So to Verses 32, it's a very inefficient system. And they need a ton of sugar in order to function, so one of the fun things is to realize that this is a huge vulnerability, cancer seems so fearsome and it's gonna take over, however, it can only work if you give it sugar.

We like to use, of course, you can use diet modification and things like that to Mamet that in the body, but there, some Camus made a molecule to do, take advantage of this Nobel prize winning observation, and they hooked sugar molecule to a bezel to hide ring from a fig plant. And basically, it's just a big molecule that normally wouldn't go into any kind of cell at all, but because it's got sugar attached to it, cancer cells take it in right away.

Okay, and once it's inside the cell of the sugar gets clipped off and the bezel to Hye Rin is poisonous to the energy making cycle, so the first thing I can do is either make the sell pop and die 'cause it's a big molecule or it can storage and then if it's got stars, I can't make Nagaland, I can't code itself and I can't close itself from the immune system, and all kinds of bad things that happen because it's activity or all of a sudden stopped and potentially reversible.

The other thing is that some Japanese researchers observed that there's a hub protein inside cancer cells that they designated 14, 33 And 1433 brokers. About 1520 of these, what I call transduction pathways or rapid cell cycling or pathways to immortality, that are identified by a lot of these genetic markers, but nobody talks about how they get to work. And so Benetton poisons that broker and cancer, the name of the game is to stop the rapid division, however you can do that, change the biochemical environment, starve them, and even if you don't kill them immediately cut off their pathways to immortality. That's a whole new ball of wax right there, there's a whole other plane of interaction and thinking and activity that we can do to help people not only to get the deal with the current condition of the cancer, but to get themselves better and be recurrence free. This is very fascinating. I feel like we're in breaking news mode with you right now.

We have to take a quick break. But we will be right back in just a moment with Dr.

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And now back to our interview with Dr. Van chef and we've been talking about the latest and cancer testing methods and this... And treatments, and really interesting, just a moment ago, we were talking about cancer cells that feed off of sugar, is there a new chemo to lower insulin? Yes, there is a technique to administer chemotherapy in a very effective manner with a tiny dose, so in other words, normal chemotherapy is administered according to milligrams of drug, according to kilograms of body weight or body surface area, and these are pretty much standardized dosing regimens.

Now, we've found that if you take advantage of the fact that cancer cells need glucose for energy, and that's the only thing they can use, if you lower the person's blood sugar level from 80s-90s down to 40s in a very gentle manner, it essentially opens the gates and cancer cells will be more likely to take in the drug that you're administering at the time, now, when people use traditional dosing, they have to use a ton of drug because they don't have any tricks to get the cancer cells to take it in.

When we use insulin potentate, low dose chemotherapy, we can lower the blood sugar with insulin, introduce a substance that will drive it into the cells and use one-10th of the amount of drug that's needed and get a fantastic result.

Wow.

So it's a minimal toxicity, maximal result.

Okay, the other thing that goes along with the theory of that is that traditional oncology uses a lot of medicine and they look at killing a lot of cells at once.

Now, usually dosing can be once a week, but lots of times it's once every three weeks, so you get a big wall up every three weeks, now, too much killing creates too much clean up for the immune system, so the last killing at a one time, the easier it is on your immune system, the other aspect of the science of it is that there are sub-populations of cancer cells, they're not all created equal, so some are more mutant and energy-needy and some are less movement and don't need so much energy to replicate.

So when you use a man-of drug at once, you're usually killing the nice guys and leaving the mutton guys to replicate without competition for energy resources, and that's, in my personal opinion, the reason that people get rapid recurrences when they do full-dose chemotherapy. So what do you offer alongside of that... Well, I like to use this substance called calcium because it saturate tissues and sales in a way that's less toxic, and it also helps to change the biochemical environment you to remember people get cancer for a reason.

Okay, your immune system is designed to identify and kill a cell that's not right, that's what your macrophages are supposed to do, so if they don't do that, that means that your immune system is impaired and that whole... That whole system is not working properly, so if you can boost and help repair this injured system in your body at the same time of doing some small amount of code controlled killing, you can get a great result.

And that's precisely what we do. So we use mission, which is a burying... That barrier that you kiss under, and it's a really cool thing, it's like a God-given medicinal plan because it doesn't have any roots of its home, so grows on other trees and takes the lectins and polysaccharides out of that plant, concentrates them in the berry, and then people harvest these berries at a certain phase of the moon, it's very menial, and then distill that, and then we use that for treatment... Wow. And it can sometimes help to kill cancer cells, but I use it most of the time because it does two powerful things, it enhances the number and function of all your immune system cells, your natural killer cells, you can kinda imagine what they're doing... The b-cells or T-cells that help them help ourselves, all of those cells will be enhanced in their number and function, but the key thing is it's a DNA protective to a normal cell in the presence of a cancer cell.

Now, we know because of testing that we do to identify that when patients have a tumor, they're shedding cancer cells, and those shed cells have the capability to kind of move around in the body, so they can move out of the tissues and jump into the highway, the bloodstream, they can float around, they can go somewhere else and hop off and try and make a new tumor somewhere else, and that's how people get metastatic disease, so it's very important to protect yourself against the activity of these circulate tumor cells and stem cells, and they're relatively immortal, they live a long time, so it's important to characterize them, and we do have tests to do that, and then to figure out what kills them and what doesn't kill them, but meanwhile, you have to protect your body from further recruitment and attack.

So can you talk a little bit... I don't know if this... It goes alongside with it. But the low-level laser therapy.

Well, one level laser therapy is coming into its own. It's been primarily used to treat infections and sometimes neurologic problems, it's the... Dr. Webber and Germany is the one who has made this whole system of treatment more commonly known and kind of famous, but it utilizes different wavelengths of low-level laser laces... Laser light is unique and that it's monochromatic and focused. So a certain wavelength, once it's generated will have a certain energy, it's not like white light, that's very diffuse and all these... It's scattered.

So what they do is we can generate laser light with these electrodes or diodes, and it can help to increase the energy and the tissues and help rejuvenate mitochondria and mitochondria, these little organelles that make that 32 times as much energy as an anaerobic metabolizing cancer cell, but they kinda die and get very dysfunctional, they're very delicate, too much calcium, the membranes get Mike and then they don't work.

So the big thing about laser therapy is to help tissue rejuvenation, mitochondrial regeneration, making a biochemical environment that's more conducive, so basically, it's just like you have a negative environment, and so you wanna change that, and there are multiple aspects of changing it in the MO level master API is one of them.

If you have tiny lesions, you can use it to really make them disappear, but these larger tumors... You're gonna need more than just that.

Thank you for describing that. Let's talk a little bit about immune-boosting therapy and the latest developments, what... First of all, what is immune boosting there you do... Immune-boosting therapy can have many... Take on many forms. I just described to the missile, which I think is very important, we have to... Sometimes we have to boost the immune system by getting rid of surreptitious infections, I see many people who come to me, and then the screening testing, they have viruses, the Epstein-Barr virus in particular.

Well, these people will pretty much always report that they have a chronic low white blood cell count, and so Curtiss infections can suppress your bone marrow, so we can support that with herbal combinations, there's a thymus extract from cows and beef and all that sort of thing, there was a big business in New Zealand growing, growing all these healthy animals and nice air, and so there are things like that that we can give patients to help them improve their bone marrow, and of course, one of the biggest immune-boosting treatments is eating good food.Clean, healthy, the way God made us. We are supposed to... Even the act of chewing stimulates the pituitary gland, so eating and chewing, and you know, digesting and absorbing nutrients causes a multitude of hormonal responses that are required for health.

So many times we see people who are ill and they're just... One of the first things I get them to do is to eat and eat properly.

Talk a little bit about the circulating tumor cell and stem cells.

Well, it's a fascinating subject because even in traditional oncology textbooks, they talk about circulating to our cells and stem cells, and as to say When you're cured, you will have none in your bloodstream.

Well, yes and no. First of all, they say that, but then they don't characterize them and they don't treat them, so that's kind of a halo problem there, but basically certain to ourselves in stem cells have different characteristics than primary tumor, so we see this, particularly in the case of breast cancer, and sometimes in terms of lung cancer, where there are specific receptors associated with that tumor cell type, so say for example, in breast cancer where there's the estrogen receptor positivity, the progesterone receptor positivity, and then this her to new, which is a human epidermal growth factor positivity. Well, lots of people who have heard to new positive breast cancer have circling to herself and stem cells that don't have that marker, and of course, they're the ones that can cause the metastatic problem.

So a big part of our treatment that I think sets us apart from others is that we are very adamant about characterizing those cells, counting them, because it represents the potential for metastasis and then identifying what is gonna work on your particular cells and what does not, and many times, I've treated lots of patients, so you see patterns, of course, but there's almost the possibility that something that worked on everybody else isn't gonna work on your patient... It's the individual part.

Yeah, and so we'd like to tailor our treatment to the individual whenever possible to their advantage, because you never know when people who have breast cancer or ovarian cancer, they get carbo platon and taxa carbon tax, all carbon tax on this... Okay, well, maybe carbo-platon isn't the best ALCAN agent that's gonna kill your cancer cells, maybe it's this platinum, maybe it's excellent. Maybe it's Miami.

Who knows, maybe a drug that normally works on a Baltimore works great on your ovarian tumor, I've seen this many times, so if you don't look, you're not gonna find the answer... Yeah, and everything is... Everybody's individual.

It has to be individualized.

So is there any hope for life without recurrences?

Well, I think... Absolutely, I think that some cancers are more tenacious than others, ovarian cancer is particularly difficult, but my impression is that if you... In my experience is that if you treat the body biochemistry and improve that, if you enhance the function of the immune system, increase the body frequency and rehabilitate the tissues, the mitochondria population and all that, and specifically treated circling to ourselves and stem cells long-term.

In addition to identifying and treating any surreptitious infection that may be present in that person's body, you're gonna have a really great result, I think that the number one cause of recurrence that I see is untreated parasite and viral infections.

So again, starting with the root LOVE AND HAVE YOU HAVE TO slits kind of like A reversible coat... Yeah, one side you can use to treat, derisive out, you could use the same code for preventing... Yeah, a preventative, which is what you're all about.

Well, this has been fascinating information, thank you so much for spending time with us today and your great advice, we really appreciate your knowledge, and we look forward to having you on again in the meantime, you can get more information on Dr. Von shaper on the website, Cancer Center for Healing dot com, and we look forward to our next visit. Oh, thank you so much for having me. Thank you. Okay, the advice and informational content does not necessarily represent the views of mother's market and kitchen, mother's recommends consulting your health professional for your personal medical condition,