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Hello, I'm Kimberly King, and welcome to the mother's market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, there's been quite a big discussion lately around the benefits and dangers of eating seafood. Well, today we'll try to set the record straight and give you some information about the type of code and what to avoid, plus later will tell you what's new at mother's market and what's going on around town.

But first up, Nora Eddie is the co-founder of salty girl seafood, a company that provides sustainable traceable seafood that is fun and easy to prepare. NEER, a whole serves in marine biology from the College of Charleston, South Carolina, and a master's in natural Marines Resource Management from UCSB brand school. Her work has ranged from extensive field biology aboard inshore and offshore fishing and research vessels, habitat restoration, marine spatial planning and small-scale fisheries reform. In 2014, she co-founded salty girl seafood with the aim of creating positive change in the seafood industry and global oceans, and we welcome her to the mother's market radio show.

Nor, how are you?

I'm doing well, how are you?

Great, thanks for being here. Why don't you fill our audience in a little bit on your mission and work before we get to today's show topic... Sure, so salty girl is really started as a passion project for my co-founder and our founding team, and we really just saw that there was space in the market for a really clear, clearly defined sustainable seafood product, it's hard to make a good decision about the safe that you're eating and it's something that we all wanna have, make those good decisions so that we're not depleting our ocean of its beautiful resources, and so it was really all about putting our expertise in the fisheries and biological sciences world and creating kind of a brand and something that resonates with... Excellent, well, today, and congratulations by the way, thank you day, we're talking about the benefits of eating wild seafood and why is seafood so good for us?

So seafood is awesome for pretty much everybody, Seafoods high in omega-3 fatty acids, which is a type of polyunsaturated fat that our bodies actually don't create for themselves, we have to find them in foods that we eat, fish is high in nutrients, vitamins and minerals that are also, sometimes hard to find in the foods that we're eating, and it's a great source of protein for us, and what are the best types of sea food to eat.

So we love wild Sam manual to girl. We love all wild fish, you really can't go wrong, but things like wild salmon, black cod, sardines, things that are low on the food chain that are Oiler and fat or fish are actually really good for you to eat, and things like oysters that contain minerals, like zinc and IDA and things like that, the bright... Good brain food.

That's great brain food.

What are the benefits of eating fish, and I know you... We just kinda talked a little bit about that.

So the benefits of eating fish are really astounding when you look across the broad spectrum of functions that eating fish can support, so all of these omega-3 fatty acids and these nutrients, and of course, protein is such a great thing for you, but this is good for your brain, it's good for your cognitive ability, it's great for your eyesight, because it's a lean protein, it helps you build muscle, and it helps your body repair more quickly, so it's just an all-around great go-to food, our bodies are able to process it, it's not like a heavy source of protein that stays in your system and takes a long time to digest, so it's just this kind of miracle protein that we're fortunate to have. And you've been talking about these omega-3s. What are omega 3s?

Yeah, so Omega-3s are theses. This type of polyunsaturated fat. We hear them reference usually when we're talking about either seafood or some nuts contain the walnuts and almonds or avocado, so kind of all of these things that we think about as being really good for us, and like I said, our bodies don't produce them, so it's necessary that we find them in the foods that we eat, and seafood is just kind of an omega-3 jackpot, but especially things like salmon are really fantastic sources, and is there a limit on how much seafood we should be eating and feeding the family?

So that's been such an interesting question for us throughout this process, there's a lot of information about the out there about contamination or mercury in the foods that we're eating, in the seafood that we're eating, but provided your seafood is coming from a really great clean wild source, there's no reason why you shouldn't be eating the recommended two to three servings per week... Oh, that's good to know.

Yeah, when people shop for fish and what country of origin should people look for to source their fish problem?

Yeah, so the US, the United States has absolutely fantastic fisheries management, we are a leader in the industrial world in the first world, in the way that we protect and manage our resources, and our fishermen are out there on the water doing great things and great work to abide by the strict guidelines that are basically set out for them, so when you're looking first and foremost, look for us, cot said Absolutely. And what are the nutritional differences between wild and farmed salmon? Yeah, so that's always a contentious one for people, so wild salmon is a very lean protein, whereas farm salmon is often a little bit fatter, and any time you're buying farm seafood, always important to keep in mind that like any sort of large-scale animal farming, there are lots of additives that these animals are exposed to, including antibiotics and treatments that the water is undergoing, whereas with a wild salmon or any wild fish, they're just surviving off of a pristine or a relatively pristine environment.

Can you eat too much this ever... No, you definitely... Certain groups, you need to be mindful about how much seafood they're taking in that are kind of in that higher risk for the mercury level, so things like tile fish or tunas, the big kind of sport fish kind of fish, but we don't eat tons of that fish anyway, so no, the answer is no. So can you talk a little bit about the product that you have to... Yeah, absolutely. So this new product that we have, salmon bites, while the LAS salmon bites is something we're so excited about, it kind of the genesis for this project came for so many moms were saying, and my kids love salmon, but I just don't have an easy way to prepare it, I'm not gonna buy a giant file for them, and so we said, we can figure something out, and we also knew that moms are having a hard time getting enough vegetables and their kids, so we're thinking, Okay, we can do protein and some hidden veggies.

So this awesome salmon bites product is while the last of salmon with broccoli and sweet potato and gluten-free oats, there's no added sugars, you can see exactly where and how your fish was caught on the back of every package, so it's a really fun way to kind of, start that conversation with kids around the food system and who's harvesting our food, and where does it come from and... Yeah, it's a fantastic product. So I love that, I love that. What the listeners can see, it is a cute story, on the back again, it's learned the story of your fish, and on this particular box is the fishing gear type and the gillnet, so you're learning... It's very... Teaching the kids that, Yesler, about the fish, and then we're... The types of fish... So this is the same advice, are they all salmon?

So this is our own, this is our first kids product, our first foray into the kids product, and we started with salmon because kids love salmon, which we didn't know because we're just feeding them all of this mystery fish that's breaded and fried. And so we thought, what about a pure... Beautiful stardust fish, the way it should be. Easy, healthy.

Love it.

So with broccoli and sweet potato it... Yeah, that's also in... And it's great too, because we love it, my husband, I eat a ton of these now, and you know, I think parents eat a lot of food of their kids plates, kids get up, the last thing you wanna eat is like cold chicken fingers and fries, but picking me up your kid's plate, you could do a whole box of these, throw these on a salad for Mom and Dad... Right, and then kids can have the... They can actually have our left over... Exactly, the... The way it... Yeah, exactly. tables have turned, what benefits do the omega 3s give people when they get it through eating fish.

Yeah, so the omega-3s are great for different age groups for different reasons, it's actually a really great thing, a Megas, our great thing for pregnant women in particular, to make sure that you're getting that all of the things you need for a growing baby. But yeah, it's really good for... There even have been some studies that show that Omega-3s are great for dealing with ADHD and other cognitive and behavioral things, which is really interesting, so yeah, the benefits across the board are just fantastic, but brain function in particular is a really strong one.

Well, this is all very interesting information, and right now we have to take a quick break, but more in just a moment, don't go away. We will be right back with Nora Eddie, the co-founder of salty girl time.

And welcome back to the mother's market radio show. And we wanna remind you that if you've missed any portion of today's show, you can find us on iTunes by searching mother's market or download the show from our website, mother's market dot com, click the link for radio and listen to the past shows. Plus download our Healthy Recipes and money savings coupons, all available at mother's market dot com. And now, back to our interview with salty girls seafood founder, Nora Eddie, and we're talking about the benefits of eating wild seafood, particularly salmon bites, your new line here for kids, this looks really good by the way, to... Anyway, this looks great, but I've heard a lot about mis-labeling and how do I know that are the fish that we're eating... The manual says what it is...

Yeah, so mis-labeling is something that has always been a problem in the industry, but it's been kind of hush-hush, kind of an industry secret or just kind of something that happened and nobody was blowing the lid off, but there have been a few studies in recent years that have come to the consumer's attention, which is fantastic because we're becoming an ever more informed consumer base, and rightly so. We absolutely should be.

And so some of the things that we're learning about our seafood supply chains is that they're incredibly convoluted, and oftentimes, as fish is passing through, I think it's over 20 hands on average, that from the time of fish is landed on the dock until the time it ends up on your plate, it's moving through these big complex supply chains, and along the way, these fish are being labeled something different than what they actually are, and that's what we call an industry mis-labeling, and that's why traceability is so important so that you actually know from basically ship to play from both to plate that the fish that you're getting is really the fish that the restaurant or the... Right, is what they say it is. And so the important thing for the consumer to know is to find a trusted source for your seafood, so whether it's your local natural food store or it's your local fishmonger or whoever that is, or even at a restaurant, find a chef who sources with integrity and don't be afraid to ask questions, the important questions about top questions about Seafood, or how was it caught and where did it come from? And if your supplier can't answer those questions, don't buy the fish, so it's a really good point, and that's a great recommendation there.

What are the benefits that specifically... We talked a little bit about this for pregnant women... Yeah, and you're pregnant.

Graduations, thank you. And I'm sure you are definitely discerning when you're eating fish, but when you are designing your line here to your label... Yes. So talk a little bit about that. As a pregnant mom?

Yes, yes.

I find that pregnant women are constantly... You start having this whole new sense about what am I putting in my body, you know, it starts suddenly everything becomes much more important when you're eating for two... So you're thinking about what our nutrient-dense protein sources that are gonna give me energy throughout the day, seafood is fantastic source of zinc, which is really important for pregnant women and passing that on to your developing baby. These amas that we've been talking about that are so important for early childhood development, starting in the womb, and something that I know a lot of pregnant women are concerned about is everyone is this Mercury topic that we touched upon a little earlier, and that can definitely be scary because mercury is a heavy metal and you hear that word, let me think. Okay, see, food is off the table, but really doctors and nutritionists are really encouraging women to eat more seafood because the benefits really do outweigh the risk, because mercury is one of these things that is really only problematic in a handful of fish, but because it's so scary it's ways heavily on our mind, so things that you wanna be careful about eating high doses of basically... Or lots, lots and lots of big tunes, so raw tunas, things like swordfish, tile fish or shark, but if you're eating low on the trophic level, as we say, are low on the food chain, you're eating smaller fish, you have less of a concern with mercury. So women who are pregnant or nursing should definitely be mindful of avoiding those top five mercury heavy or mercury-prone species, but otherwise, eat fish... Absolutely fill up on fish, for sure, it's so good for you and for the baby.

So again, so the bigger the fish, that's where the mercury... Yeah, because the way that it works is it's actually... Methylmercury is the type of mercury that is absorbed into our bodies, and what happens is it bio-accumulates, so as big fish eat small fish, they're obtaining more and more collecting more of that mercury into their tissues, so the ratio becomes much greater, it's like the volume to the Mercury to the volume of the fish becomes much greater than it is, and even a younger tuna, so sometimes things like young albacore are great products for anyone, there's not a big mercury concern, so... Yeah, just don't be afraid of... Don't be afraid of eating the little guys, and I say, You know, I thank you that you really just explain something that put it in the perfect perspective. Yeah, go ahead. Not, thank you. So now I get to talk about the kids. Yeah, since you are going to be... You're gonna have one yourself here, or you may experience a picky eater, so how can we get our families and our little ones to eat percent really hiding or maybe perhaps hiding it.

You talked a little bit about your particular product here before, but getting them to like this... Yeah, so fish it can be a contentious food at the dinner table for a lot of families, but a lot of moms know that it's such a great thing to get in these little bodies. So sometimes we have to be creative about how we do that.

Something that we've been working with families on is fish tacos, doing Taco Tuesday night tacos or something that... It's a fun kind of activity to get hands on, there's lots of... You can put cheese on anything, there's a lot... You can cover up a lot of sins and so fish tacos is a great way to start getting kids interested in fish, any particular kind of fish in the tool... We love to do rockfish here in California. rockfish is a great kind of white flaky fish that's not an overpowering taste, but adds a lot of flavor, it's a great sustainable fishery here on the Western seaboard. So you should feel really good about that.

Pacific COD is another great one. Really mild, it's really hard to... It's not an intimidating one to cook, so to speak. So that's really great. We also do some smoked sea food, so that's a great way, it's a little bit of a different texture, sometimes texture is a problem for kids, so kind of mixing it up on whether it's a fresh product or a smoked product or however you're doing that, mixing it into egg, tossing it into a lunch box, just trying out at different times of the day, it doesn't have to be for dinner time all the time, so just being a little creative and sometimes you just keep trying different things... That's a great thing about Seafood is that It's not... Chicken is chicken, beef is best, but Seafood, you have this... You've got an arsenal behind, you have got all sorts of stuff you can keep their own out of...

What about that visit? fishy taste, so what are the recommendations of some fish that is not too pushy, right.

Things that are really mild, so the Oiler, the fish, the fish year. So I should never be... Fish should always smell clean, I should always smell like the ocean, so if you're getting a fishy smell and that's what's off putting, find a new place to buy your fish... Right, but strong fish, even something like black cod and even salmon, for some people, because it's a high oil and fat content fish can be a little bit off-putting, but a good, really mild, a lot of the white fish, so Pacific cod caught is such a... Globally ubiquitous species because it's palatable and attractive for so many different cultures, so cod and rockfish, halibut is another one that the texture is very firm, but the taste is very mild.

So those are great places to start. And what about, is there a good way to prepare fish to get away from that oily taste?

That's a great question. I mean, you mentioned the taco Tuesday, you like anything to do poorly, tacos are a great way. Things like using... See if it doesn't have to be a main main part of the plate, see if it can be incorporated to soup, some stews and as you mentioned, dips and things like that, so that's another fun way to kind of introduce some new flavors, introduce a seafood product, but not necessarily have it be kind of the main course of the total... The main attraction that may entertainment... Exactly, that's a good idea. What about... Is farmed fish bad?

No, so we do all wild fish, we're ocean people, so we're super biased, of course, and we love working with the fishermen that we work with, but I often like to explain, farming in the ocean is very similar to farming on land, we have large-scale farming operations conventional farms here in the United States that are around the world, that use pesticides and use all of these harmful chemicals in the way that they raise and they grow, whether it's animals or crops, monoculture and all of these kind of negative things that we hear about the food that it is being raised, and that's very true of farmers food as well, so there are really scary operations out there, which unfortunately represents the lions share of what's available in the market, but there are just like... There are organic farms, terrestrial, there are really great small-scale farms, food producers, so we definitely don't wanna be writing of farmed fish or shellfish, kind of making blanket statements, but you definitely wanna be asking harder questions about the farm fish that you're eating.

And what is your best and final advice to people so that they can work more fish into the diets?

I think be bold and make a concerted effort, I think that I know myself, it's easy to get in the habit of buying the same things, try to make a concerted effort to start if it's... If you don't need anything right now, if you don't need seafood at home right now, you know the low-hanging fruit is pick one night a week and that's your seafood night, and then work yourself up into two or three nights a week, find a recipe that you love, find a company that you love, find a fishmonger who you love to go chat with, you find a way to make it something that's very attractive and fun for you, and I mean... I love seafood, I think seas. Wonderful. See if it is the last wild food that we eat. It's such an incredible way to experience this connection that we have with our natural resources, so find something that is a great way to engage your family or makes you feel really good about the safe that you're buying and start there.

Wonderful. Well, great advice and good luck with your company, good luck with their very... Your family, thanks so much for your time and some great advice for all of us getting into the seafood realm, we appreciate your knowledge, and in the meantime, you get more information on Nora and her website, it's salty girl seafood dot com. We look forward to our next visit, we're moving through this week's mother's market radio show would stay with us because next step, we'll tell you what's going on around town.

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