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Hello, I'm temporally King, and welcome to the mother's market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, there are many things we can do to help us feel healthier as we age, find out how you can help supplement your diet and look your best at any age, plus later, we'll tell you what's going on around town and what's new at mother's market but first up, we all wanna live a high quality of life as long as we can, and today we're going to dig deeper into ways we can extend our lives through nutrition, here to help us as mushroom wisdom, VP of education and research, Mark Taylor. Mark has been involved in the natural products industry for well over 30 years, including retail, manufacturing, a formulating in private practice, he studied in a variety of traditional healing approaches, including eastern and western herbalism, naturopathy, nutrition and shamanism. And Mark brings an eclectic perspective to the conversation with an emphasis on education and a truly holistic orientation, and we welcome him to the mother's market radio show.

Mark, how are you?

I'm doing good. As pleasure to be back.

Thank you for being here.

Why don't you fill in our audience a little bit on your mission and your work before we get to the show's topic... Well, I kind of actually backed my way into the natural products industry or natural healing, whatever you wanna call it, alternative medicine, there's so many different names for it, but whatever we wanna call it, I kinda backed my... Ianto it, I was actually going to grad school, I needed to find a job to help pay the bills and rent and everything, why I was going to grad school, I took a part-time job in a health food store, and that just changed world view, I changed the way I was eating changed my career path, much of the Scranton, my parents who were helping me pay for my grad school, everything changed at that point on, and from that point, I started exploring natural healing modalities from around the world. I've had the chance to study with shamans and reinforce and Peru and Ecuador, I study with a traditional Native American medicine man, is what we would call in, I guess today, in North Carolina, Chinese herbalist in the mountains of China. So I'm basically trying to gather information from whatever sources I can, and I'm a bit of a research, a Holi, so I like to also find the science, so it's a real mix of science and tradition that try to bring together in a fairly eclectic mix.

Well, I think that's fascinating, and thank you for all of your research, and so let's start by asking what is aging... Yeah, that's a real good question. It maybe sound a little surprising, but there really is no definition of aging, generally, what we do is we define aging by the diseases that we associate with aging, hair turning grey, losing her hair, getting wrinkles, arthritis, memory loss, dementia, heart disease, all those things are the things that we associate with age, but I would actually argue and make a case for that, those things really have little to do with aging, what they have to do with his decades and decades of living the wrong lifestyle, not getting enough sleep, being stressed out, eating the wrong foods, trying our foods, eating pesticide enhanced foods, all the different things that I think contribute to this gradual breakdown, the aging process, I think left to its natural and best course is very different from what we understand it, and it's interesting because anthropologists have actually looked at the aging process, and they really believe that there's a relationship between how we view aging and then how we actually age, so if our society would actually wake up and say, Hey, we get better and better as we get older and older, I actually believe we would get better and better as we get older. But that's how we do. Everybody draws the 30 at the 40th and forbid the sixth birthday, which is coming up real soon for me, so I think it really has to do with that orientation and then has a lot to do with lifestyle choices and so... Yeah, lifestyle choices, and we say what are the causes of Aging, you can actually maybe slow down that by maybe what you say your lifestyle choices... Yeah, this gets into really what is the theory of the causes of aging, and there are lots of different theories, there's lots of different debates in aging community, telomeres, which is a big issue right now, which is really the tip of our genetic structure and ourselves... It's kind of like the tip of a shoe, lays some people believe agents led to that gradual breakdown of those telomeres, which eventually makes the DNA non-functional... Or actually function poorly. mitochondrial function is one of the hot up and comers, the mitochondria are actually the little furnaces or engines that drive ourselves, obviously when they start malfunctioning or stop doing what they're supposed to be doing, we have fewer or fewer means we have less and less engines driving us, and we gotta remember, we're made up a cell cells in her brain cells and or muscle cells in our heart, all those things are really driven by mitochondria, free radicals, inflammation, there are immune theories of it, there's even to wear and tear Basile wear out. joints were out, the bodies just have been doing stuff for so long that it just gradually starts to break down, so lots of different theories, I think that really relate to what aging is all about, and I think it gets to the point that for me, the best approach then to do this is to take all of these things together, my theory of aging is the accumulation, meaning the accumulation of all these things put together, so it has to do with the genetic structure, it has to do what the lifestyle... It has to do with wear and tear, it has to do with how many mito condo where you have and how well they're functioning or free radical damage, it's all of these things put together. And I think really that's the only way we're gonna have any hope profoundly impact how long we live, and then the quality of that life. Is there any science or research that supports the holistic approach to aging... Yeah, that's a real inertia, it's kind of the new area initially, everybody was looking for that fountain of... You constantly on... Well, there've been modern versions of that scientists out looking for, you know that one magic pill that one magic or the one magic vitamin... Even thought that was gonna be a reservation. Now there's something stragglers number four, which is coming from the Astragalus planned, so everybody's been out looking for that one thing. I think the research is coming really clear that this holistic approach really is the only way and the only effective way to have a profound impact on our health and healing, because so many things are involved in this, and you see this in the Population Studies, which have been really interesting where they've gone in, they looked at Centenary and and they looked at communities that have much higher numbers of Cynthia as meaning people that live to 100 and beyond, and it's the lifestyle choices that are profoundly impacting... The longest-lived people on the planet aren't the people that are taking resveratrol or taking a stragglers side for... These are people who are making the right lifestyle choices, being active walking, believe it or not, is one of the best things you can do, other people have real connection, family community, those things are extraordinarily important, eating certain amounts of food and not too much of those foods, are profoundly impacting. So these lifestyle choices are really the things that have the biggest and most profound impact on our health, and then I think supplements can kinda come in and supplement that process or that process.

It really takes that holistic approach and the research is confirming that you know these population studies and when they look at individuals, when you look at all these different theories, there's never gonna be one pill that's gonna affect genetics, like lifestyle choices, obviously, the mitochondria, the telomeres, all these things... So it's really a complex lifestyle and in lifestyle where the include diet diet is very much... I think we tend to separate it, but lifestyle, diet, so part and parcel the same thing, and you kind of mentioned that too with everything in moderation, when you talk about diet, but not going over forward... And especially as we age.

Yeah, I wanna be careful that everything in moderation, I'm not so much buying into that, I mean cigarettes and moderation, you to... But when you're talking about diet, but you're right now not... And it is really simple. You a plant-based diet, lots of fruits and vegetables, eat a lot of variety and don't over-eat... That's as simple as you can get. If everybody follow that diet, heart disease or plummet cancer rates, or plummet, we live better, we live healthier, we don't need these really complex diets that you can only eat this, you're gonna eat that, or you're gonna get this at this time of day on... Only put these things together, you're gonna eat this if you're type A blood, it's a very simple... You can still eat your other foods, but just make the focus of our meals good whole plants, when is the best time to start focusing on preventing aging and enhancing longevity.

Yeah, I say there's no time like the present. Really, it's a case of the sooner the better, I think many of the things that we associate with the Aging, they just don't hit us at once, we just don't wake up tomorrow, and we have gotten massively don't have massive inflammation or free to radical damage or the telomeres just don't degrade in one day, these are things that take time, again, getting back to those lifestyle choices, so these things accrue over a very long period of time, it's a very gradual, very slow process, so the sooner you can impact, interfere and make changes in those paths, those processes, I think by far, that's gonna be the most impacting and you have the most success with it, so I know it's hard for the 21 and 24-year-olds and start thinking about their mortality... I wish I had when I was 24 or something like that.

In the world, my life would be very different at this point in time, we get 45, 50 years old, we started feeling some of those symptoms of that decade is a lifestyle and proper lifestyle choices, and then we wake up to it, but even then, we can still profoundly impact it. So the sooner, the better. Yeah, as soon as we're starting to talk about it and think about it, of course, well, this is really interesting information, and of course, we're gonna need to take a quick break, but more with Mark in just a moment. Don't go away, we'll be right back.

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And now back to our interview with Mark Taylor, and we're talking about aging, and Mark a little bit during the break, we were talking about spices and cooking and how we can implement this process of just feeling better is, I think are a devalued, very powerful. Super food, if you already wanna use that term for me... Yeah, super Oros, Mary time, a big fan of... I used to live out here in Orange County, and I had a huge Rosemary plant that grew in my backyard, and I think when I first got it was like 3 inches tall, and by the end it was probably 12 feet broad and stuff like that.

It was very great for the brain, great as a mood enhancer, great for circulation, great antioxidant, probably anti-cancer, systemic inflammation, just a wonderful, wonderful herb atomic and even just actually breaking off a little sprig of it, pinching it, rubbing it a little bit and smelling that has been sown to enhance the mood and be a very effective anti-depressant, save Sage will kill virtually any microbe you have in your body. Very, very powerful medicine. Again, something that grows naturally around here and all over the place, so there are a lot of very powerful medicines that we have in our kitchen cabinets, if we keep them fresh, obviously, and if we use them properly.

Right. Let's talk a little bit about the Indian herbs that they have a turmeric, and you were talking a little bit about the families having their own spices... I thought that was interesting, yeah, I'm a really big fan of T. I think the potential for termites, huge, it's one of those supplies, probably four or five softens, I think everybody probably should just taken on a regular basis, we know inflammation is the contributing factor to Everton IC disease on the planet. Heart disease, cancer things that we don't know any associate for cancer to spread throughout the body, it's gotta get the body into a pro-inflammatory or inflammation, the supporting process. So if you wanna stop cancer from spreading in your body, you stop the inflammation from a current in your body and tricks, one of the easiest safest ways to do it, you can take it as a spice, you can cook with it, it's a common spice that's founder always found incurable and incur in India, there's actually a very traditional blend of spices, but it's something that's very particular to each family, every family has their own little secret family recipe, it's passed on from mother to daughter, the dog all the way, but it always has tumor in it, and it's interesting because they found populations that consume the highest amounts of touring the record part of their diet, basically have lower rates of all these chronic diseases that we kinda take us given, so something as simple as two or three grams of tumor in your food every day, I can have a profound impact. Now, if you don't really like curry, which unfortunately, I don't particularly care for curry, or two to three grams of it is actually, it may not sound like a lot, but it's a pretty strong flavor, so if you're not really in the Indian spices and things that may be a bit much, there's some very powerful supplements out there, there are some specific trademark products out there where they've increased the bioavailability of term work in the body, BCM 95, Maria is another one. I like that one, particularly for the brain, but if you are gonna cook with term or just use the space, you always wanna take it with a little fat because it'll help the absorption, and if you can take it with a little pepper, that'll help with the absorption as well.

That's good advice, thank you. So BCM 95 and Riva Maria, they basically wrap it up in a fat molecule, which I think it makes it a little more transportable across the blood-brain barrier, so if people are concerned with brain inflammation, particularly Alzheimers, dementia, the number of actions that tumors for the brain, quite amazing, they gotta be eight or nine different specific actions, I think that make it really relevant for preventing and treating Alzheimer's and dementia, I really like that Maria form of it, 'cause I think it probably gets into the brain better, otherwise, if you're talking about systemic... I really like the BCM, I don't remember the exact number, running as a 13 times higher absorption rate than just regular taking regular term ERG, so you get more of it into your body that way.

That's great information. Let's transition to talk about mushrooms, which have traditionally been associated with longevity and... Can they really help mushroom?

Yeah, actually, I think they can... And you gotta remember, the user remedy has been around for thousands of years. These are medicines that they had to go to great lengths to get, for instance, the cornices mushroom, which I think is one of the best legitimate longevity or anti-aging remedies that's available out there today. They've used it for thousands of years, but in order to get it, you gotta go up to 80000 feet and above, and the Himalayan mountains, you gotta get down on your hands and knees, you gotta work your way through the grass and try to find these little cortices routing on the ground, they're only an intro tall, so on a good day, you may find three or four quarters up, so to go to that much effort to go to at length the hike up in the the Himalayan Mountains, just define a couple of these court assess mushrooms, it's gotta be doing something for your body placebo effect is only gonna carry us so far or something like that, and the interesting thing is, particularly with cornices, is modern science has looked at it and said, Okay, here are these traditional applications, here's a traditional methodology. And warning that they apply to the mushroom, that's if we can't find some clinical measures, some quantifiable measures to see if they are actually right. And Lobelia forebears and this type of healing were exactly right on with bookies to... One of the things they say It does has enhanced the young, stimulate the young, and many of us are from math and yang Yong is the fire to drive the motivation. What allows us to sit here and talk and be animated, and be motivated, and move and dance and exercise, and that's obviously a very important part of the age, think about aging, we think of slowing down, getting colder shrinking, we round our shoulders off, we say hairline start to go, these are all deficiencies of young, so it brings back that young fire that Yang dry... That motivation and things... And you see that there are actually three clinical studies for hypo sexuality people, older individual with under active sex drives showing a number of improvements across the board, which again, I think demonstrates that young fire in a very balanced manner, though it said to also nourish the end and the end is kind of the substance, the physical party, the moisture of the body, and again, you can think of arthritis, the Physical breakdown that we have or our body, so it has given us the energy that we need in the aging process. At the same time, it's stringing that physical presence of who we are, which is obviously a very important part of the whole, or we don't have a lot of energy, but not at the body to do it in the end. And then that's one of the amazing things about cortices strengthens heart functions. There are studies with it with arrhythmias, improves respiratory function, oxygen uptake and oxygen, it really is the life blood of the blood, every cells need it for energy, those little mitochondria, those engine... And we were talking about driving, they get more oxygen, they can create more fuel, increase overall functionality of those mitochondria, these little engine, so they're fed better, they're stronger, they're doing more what they're supposed to be Newington number of benefits that I think really make it extraordinarily well suited. And we talk about free radicals in the aging process, and everybody is, I'm sure out there is probably taking some sort of antioxidant at this point in time, on things I really like about cornices, that Sistema es, the body's own endogenous antioxidants mean the antioxidants that the body naturally produces for itself. The interesting thing about those anti-oxidants, so they're about 100 times powerful than he sort of supplement we can take, so it increases things like SOD glutathione, peroxidase, a number of different compounds that help the body fight these free radicals, but in a natural supportive manner, and for me, that's fundamentally what I wanna do. I want to get the body to do what it's designed to do at its best instead of always having to supplement or do something to replace what we should be doing, and I think corsets really fits into that mold or... Well, where do we find cortices?

Is that...

Well, we sell... It is super cortices. Otherwise, you'd have to take a trip out to the Himalayan Mountains, climb up really high and get on your hands and knees, it is actually a fungus that grows out of the head of a caterpillar in the wild, but that's not what we use. You can actually grow it in a fermentation process, so we can do Caterpillar free, but the original cortices is something that would actually sprout out, and if you go to a Chinese herb shop, you'll see them... They'll be bound together. There are these little inch and a-half little caterpillars, and it's got this brown little fungus mushroom was brought in out of the head of it, but that's not what's in common place because as you know, I mean to get these things... That's very hard. And they run, I think it's now 10000 a pound.

Oh my God, a quarter steps, that sounds appetizing.

It's a catheter, cook it in, so it's a traditional... That's how they would bring it into that they would take the counter-Millers, the carcass with the fungus and throw it in the soups and cooking in the Suan, then strain it out, you don't end up eating it, you just cook it.

Wow, that's crazy. But I mean, to talk about a super food that does everything... How I two thought about this, who thought that this is... This cut off is on top of a catapult, I just wanna know how that... That's a real question in herbs in general, how did we find out all these things... They used to think it was just a process of trial and error.

Yeah, someone actually said, Okay, if it was a process of trial, are I wanna do the math for this, I know how many times we do it and think about all the poses, all the bad things you have to eat to get to... They actually believe that it probably was not a trial and error, different people have different views on an anthropologist thing on... One of things they did, they looked at animals, they saw what they were using, realising stories in traditional Chinese medicine, there said to be the founder of Chinese medicine, he was the one who would test these herbs and find out for himself, it said that his skin was paper thin, so he could take... In the era he fast, he'd take an herb and he could watch what the Erb was doing in his body, and in Chinese medicine, it's all about processes, so he see that it's stimulating the liver or it's making them a little damper dryer or increasing as young as drive, whatever it may be, and he would watch and observe and then make all these notations of this, and there's a Materia Medica the day back several thousand years that's attributed to him, but they really believe that the way they went about it, he was test these herbs and look and see what they did for themselves, but there are lots of debates about how he actually came to it, because there are hundreds, if not thousands of media BS out there, the Chinese Materia Medica as their old set European Native American, all these different continents out their own herbs that they use, how did we really come by some of these things and another way, probably his taste, particularly in Asian medicine, taste is a really important element to that. So if you taste something that's better, it tends to stimulate, deliver it stay makes the digestive track that tends to be cooling on the body a little bit, so by taste you can actually get some sense of things, but you know this refinement and nuanced knowledge of it, these are really what I would call mass or herbalist, these are people who knew these things in a very personal, very intimate manner, and however they got it, I'm quite thankful that they got it, I don't know that I wanna be tasting... It is on all these things, finding out with poisonous and what's not pointing as there are people out there that do that and not... That's right. Well, and that's really interesting.

Are there any other mushrooms that might be helpful in our efforts to stay young?

Yeah, absolutely, there's a Mucho called ratio, which I'm a big fan of. I actually call it the tonic for the 21st century, Rais, a remedy that I think everybody on the planet should be taking, it's a tonic for the brain, the central nervous system, lungs, heart, kidneys, adrenals, Santa inflammatory antioxidant, improved sleep quality, health balance, mood, lower stress levels, improves memory, it just has so many different things that are beneficial across the board, but fundamentally radius about balance, anybody looking for any sort of balance in the life, whether it be physical, mental, spiritual... I think that's what Ray's really all about, tremendous amount of research, hundreds of different studies that are on it, just a great general overall tonic in fact, ratio was called the mushroom in mortality, so they've associated it, again, in traditional Chinese medicine for thousands of years with immortality and when they talk about immortality, it's not really living forever, it's just living for a very, very long time... How do you spell race?

I-S-

H-I, that's... And again, you can get that through, where do we find racial?

We make a product called Super race, and race is a product that you really need to have properly extracted, I should have brought some with me, it's a very woody mushroom, it would be like to happen on this table. It's not something you can eat, it's not something you would wanna eat would be like eating a piece of Basswood, so it's very important that you extracted to get those compounds out to make him available.

Okay, I remember, yeah. Hearing about raise mushrooms, we only have a little bit of time left, but this has been so interesting, are there any other supplements that may help enhance our lifespan?

Yeah, I think there are a number of things. I like the ones that are of a fair amount of proven ground behind them, because a combination of nutrients called a cell, carnitine and Alcala poi acid, the two of them together show a lot of promise, particularly as longevity, anti-aging, increasing vitality. There were a series of three studies that were done by a researcher in Berkeley, California, where he combined these two and basically he fed them to rats and he took the equivalent of a 75-year-old rat in human years... He quit human ears, and they said by giving him this combination that they became 35, 40-year-old rats.

Wow.

He said it was so effective that they got up and dance the Macarena, so the dates when this research was done, but they looked at different things like mitochondria, mitochondrial function free radicals, a number of measures, but it energized them across the board, it really literally rejuvenated them so nutrient-wise, I think that combination, they have to be taken together really to get this benefit, I'm a huge fan of... There's another Chinese traditional herb called Hush who often mislabeled as vote, this is in Chinese medicine, a traditional genetic gene is kind of that inherited constitution that we get... Hulu was wonderful for doing that, hou was said to turn gray hair black, but again, it nourishes us at a very fundamental essential element that I think brings it to the body, that makes it really, really useful. And then I think Treehouse inflammation is such a powerful tool in that mix, retrial, which is probably the big, hot, popular anti-aging product out there, the research is early in the game with that, some of it looks promising. There are concerns about it. How long does it stay in the body? How much do you need to take? So resveratrol to me is on that borderline, it may be great, it may not be great, we just don't know yet.

Oh my gosh, this has been fascinating, and I'm sure there's a lot more information on your website... I would imagine too. What is that? And can you tell me a little bit by your website, you can go to mushroom wisdom dot com, all our products are listed there, unfortunately, we can't have the research and all this information up there, thanks to the regulatory friends that we have. So there is a website out there called bio update dot org, Bio, and then the word update dot org, and that is nothing but much on research for people wanna see some of the signs and things about it a... Great, well, thank you so much for your time, Mark, and some great advice. Today, we really appreciate your knowledge and your research, thanks for stopping by once again, you can get more information also on the mush and wisdom dot com, as you mentioned in bio update dot org, and learn more about your approach and your unique perspective on healthy lifestyle.

Thank you, Mark.

Thank you, it's been a pleasure.

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