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Hello, I'm Kimberly King, and welcome to the mother's Market radio show, a show dedicated to the Truth, Beauty and Goodness of the human condition. On today's show, if you've ever had a rumble in your tummy and wondered if it was something you ate, now you have a way to be able to still eat those foods without the discomfort, listen closely and learn how you can fight that food intolerance. Plus later, we'll tell you what's going on around town and what's new at mother's market. But first up, Tom Bahar is the chairman of enzymatic, the number one enzyme company in the natural foods industry, he holds a degree in holistic nutrition and has authored two books, and we welcome him to the mother's market radio show. Tom, how are you?

I'm doing great, thank you.

Well, for those in our audience that may not be familiar with your mission and your work, why don't you fill them in before we get to today's topic.

Sure, enzymatic is a company that's 18 years old now. It was started in 1998, and ever since we've started enzymatic way back then, our goal was to provide high quality hypotheses to people, but not much has changed. In fact, back then, very few people knew anything about enzymes and still very few people do, they're learning about probiotics, and so one of our main missions is to educate people about the differences between probiotics and enzymes and the benefits of enzymes in their daily life.

And that's great. So you're passionate about it, and today we're talking about food intolerance, and so what is a food intolerance?

Well, food intolerance is essentially an imbalance in the digestive track, so we've eaten or consume something that we simply can't digest, and so the common symptoms of food intolerance or gas and bloating, indigestion, heartburn, to name a few, but it has to do with literally an enzyme deficiency, so the most common food intolerance is lactose intolerance, and if an individual who cannot consume lactose, which is a sugar found in dairy, they can take an enzyme called lactase, which breaks that lactose down that dairy sugar.

So by simply putting in the body what the body is unable to make enough of, a person can then consume the food that they're intolerant to, and of course, there's many more in tolerances than dairy intolerance, but there's enzymes for each of them.

And how common is it?

It's extremely common. So in the case of dairy intolerance or what most people call lactose intolerance, about 70% of the world population is intolerant to dairy, and as people get older, they may not be intolerant in younger years, they become intolerant in later years, and then you've got things like Lupin tolerance by most estimates, somewhere between five and 15% of the US population is intolerant to gluten, many more are intolerant to a raw vegetables, broccoli, cauliflower, they love raw salads, but every time they eat them, they get gas and bloating, they feel sluggish as a result... And then a small percentage of individuals are intolerant to something called phenols, and phenols are compounds found in most fruits and vegetables, as you can imagine, it's hard to remove them from the diet and also found in most preservatives, so feels is another thing.

So when you add it all up, a large portion of the population is intolerant to something, and just about everybody can relate, and on that note, what if you don't know what it is that you're intolerant too, you just feel gas and bloated and you wonder what's doing it... Yeah, yeah, well, what we suggest is an elimination diet, and it's... Their books written on this. We don't have a book on this, but in a nutshell, what an individual can do is eliminate the most common foods, so they would eliminate anything to take containing gluten, so any of the serial grains, they would eliminate dairy, they would eliminate raw vegetables, and then we also suggest that they eliminate anything that they eat more than three times a week, and so it becomes truly an elimination diet, it's not an easy die to do, but just for three days, so at the end of three days, which is essentially like a cleansing period, they begin to slowly re-introduce those foods, first, perhaps dairy, and they introduce it for one day and relatively small quantities, and they keep a journal of how they're feeling, then what they can do if they wanna take it one step further. The next day they do dairy with the enzyme lactase and see if they feel better, the day after that, they introduce gluten, the day after that raw vegetables, and simply by reintroducing these foods one at a time, they can quickly identify the foods that they're intolerant to, they can also quickly identify the enzymes that they need, because if they know what enzymes break these foods down, then they... They have a solution, and I think those percentages are amazing, I think you said 70% for the dairy, and the other thing is the aging that plays a Miles...

I kind of alluded to that, but we certainly see that in anybody that's listening that's over... Let's say 40, they can probably relate to that. I certainly can... When I was 20, I could eat anything.

And now that I'm 49, I have to be careful what I... Especially if I don't have enzymes with me, for example, I am now intolerant to dairy, I don't have to run to the restroom after I eat it, but I know when I've consumed it and I'm bloated and I don't feel good. So a lot of people can relate to that. And the reason that happens is because like many things like hormones, as we age, we simply make fewer and fewer, so by some estimates after the age of around 25, so let's say 25 to 35, we make about 13% fewer enzymes, and we did the previous decade, and then every decade after that, another 13% less, and so as you might imagine, by the time we're 50 to 60, we're making about half the enzymes we were making at 25, and so we become a lot more sensitive to the foods that we can see... Wow, and that's another... Yeah, that's another fact that we just don't realize, yeah.

What is the difference between a food intolerance and an allergy or a sensitivity... Good question, you throw the word sensitivity in there, the sensitivity and technically... So from a biological standpoint, from a scientific perspective, we get that word sensitivity mixed up a lot, but technically a sensitivity and analogy are very, very similar at different levels, but they're both immune responses, so in effect what's happening with the sensitivity and allergy is your body is saying, You just consume something that appears to be harmful and because it appears to be harmful, I'm gonna get it out of here as quickly as I can, and that's why we get the symptoms that we get, but it's clearly an immune response, so our immune system for whatever reason has identified it as it doesn't belong, doesn't belong in our system, and it's misrepresenting that it doesn't belong. So it's one of those things that you can test for.

But an intolerance is not that, it's not an immune response, very difficult to test for on the elimination diet, which I talked about earlier is probably the best way, but because it's not an immune response, people can consume these foods... If you have an allergy to strawberries or an allergy to nuts or whatever the case might be, most physicians would say avoid at all costs, especially if it's severe with an intolerance, you can tolerate it, it implies you can't, but you can... You just become uncomfortable. And so most people do. They tolerate these things. The beauty of an intolerance is, is that with just an enzyme product that you take before you consume that food, 99% of the time those symptoms go away, you can eat the food that you're intolerant to allergies. That's not the case. So there's a big difference.

Yeah, in fact, I'm just thinking about an allergy, I think... Maybe we talked about it before, but like a peanut allergy or something that can be deadly, and so that is not just dealing with it, but I definitely... Yeah, you would know.

Absolutely. How are they diagnosed?

So typically, there are blood tests where they look for antibodies for... This is allergies. Now, there's also a skin test where they do skin prick and they look for sensitivities to the skin, where they introduce these different allergens to the surface of the scan and then doctors look at your skin later, but when it comes to intolerance, other very few tests, there's a couple of labs throughout the country that will do a stool test for intolerance, and it's pretty conclusive, there's some really good evidence that suggests that it does work. The challenge with food intolerance is most doctors don't even know these tests exist, so when a person goes in for digestive symptoms to their family practice physician and they complain of these digestive challenges, if allergy tests come back negative, typically the dock stops there and says, Okay, well, you don't have any food allergies or you may have a food allergy to this, but it's not severe, and so the patient leaves thinking, okay, this is a clean bill of health. I can eat whatever I want, this must be my imagination, there's nothing wrong with me, when in fact there is... And so what we described earlier with the elimination diet and slowly re-introducing those foods is probably the easiest way to identify those intolerance.

Yeah, and I think when you said Keep a journal, I think we're our own best died someone... Can someone self-diagnose?

Yes, yeah, so the short answer is yes. It requires a commitment. The good news is, is based on what I described with that elimination diet, which is clearing for three days, slowly re-introducing foods over the next five or so, they lose weight as well.

So the typical person loses five pounds, which is a lot about a week, so it is another motivation to try it because they will lose weight in that process, everybody's going on, it's not that things go back and repeat that elimination that... Yeah, so what is typically recommended them for discovering about food intolerance.

So food intolerance is... What we recommend is you have two choices, so if you've identified a food intolerance, one of your options is to simply stop eating that food, and that's not a bad option, but it can be inconvenient, and most often, interestingly, they tend to be our favorite foods.

It's a shame, but people that have a gluten intolerance tend to love carbs and starches, they just do... People that are sensitive to raw vegetables tend to love Ross salads and people that have an intolerance to protein tend to like to barbecue. So it's unfortunate.

So the other obvious way you can get around this is by identifying the enzymes that can help an enzymatic, of course, specializes in this, this is all we do, is work with enzymes that can help overcome these digestive complaints, and then take a product right before you consume a meal... So for example, for those who are intolerant to gluten, we make two products, glutes and glutes, extra strength, and you can just simply take one of those products right before you consume a gluten-containing starch, and nine times out of 10, you're fine. It's all you really need. And life goes on, so it's a great option for people who have intolerance, so how long before a meal would you have to take that just right before the first, but if you want, if you're cautious, then 10 minutes before. So I tell them as they sit down to a meal, take their enzymes, there's usually a conversation before the meal, especially if you go to a restaurant or something, you're sitting at a table, you order a glass of wine, a perfect time to take your enzyme 'cause they would work much faster than that, but the products that we manufacture are in a cello capsule and it takes up to eight or nine minutes to break the capsule down, so by taking an eight or nine minutes before you eat and all the enzymes are active when you consume the food.

Okay, and so... Yeah, you were just talking about how they can help.

So you have them for gluten, you have them for dairy as well, right?

So enzymatic has a glute knees and a gluten Extra Strength for gluten intolerance, we have a laptop product for dairy, and I say dairy intolerance, if I can elaborate on that for just a moment, the people, most of the people that are lactose intolerance and pay no attention to the lipids and the proteins and dairy lactose is a sugar, 62% of the people that are dairy intolerant are actually intolerant to the cane, which means that if they take a lack taste product, it's not going to help, so they may have tried it and said, You know what? This does nothing for me. They're actually intolerant to something else in the dairy, so we make a product that covers all the bases of dairy collect, we make a product for phenols called Penal jazz. We make a product for multiple intents intolerance called digest spectrum and for raw vegetables called Vegas. So you name it, we have it.

Wow, thank you for clarifying that.

That's important. This is a great information time. And right now, we have to take a quick break. That we will be right back with more. And we're talking about food intolerance, stay with us.

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Well, they should look for an enzyme product, so the greatest solution to overcoming food intolerance or enzymes, and they should look for structure function, so on the label, it should say helps digest... Gluten helps digest finals helps digest vegetables and beans, for example, or dairy, and the other thing they should look for is that the company specializes in enzymes because you can't just put a couple of enzymes together and expect it to work as good as I could. I'll give you one example.Gluten is a protein or peptide, technically, it's a partial protein that it's very difficult for us to break down, there's an enzyme that breaks down gluten, the peptide. And it's called DPP-4.Now, anybody can put DPP in a product and expect some benefit, what we do, because this is what we've been doing for 18 years, is we combine with DPP-4 other proteolytic enzymes, so paralytic enzymes are enzymes to break down protein, gluten is a peptide or a partial protein, it just so happens that DPP-4 is called a exo, PEP today's and ex-OPAP today's, and it breaks the peptide down on the end, so if the peptide were like a pro necklace, it would start from each end of the pro nuclei, it was a single it was opened and it would come into the middle, but there are other proteases that break this peptide in the middle, creating more ends, and so by adding other proteases to this DPP 4, you get greater effect and greater benefit.

The other thing to consider is that every gluten food is essentially a starch, it's a serial grain, and you need amylase to break down starches, so in... In Amica, we make products that are multiple proteases, multiple amylase, because that's what you need to cover all the bases. Whereas a company that, let's say, specializes in detoxification or specializes in making vitamins and minerals, they're gonna put DP before in a product and that'll be in... So look for a company that specializes in enzymes and is willing to put multiple enzyme type products or ingredients in the same formula, so amylase lipase, proteases, even though you're trying to break down just one food, you're looking for a full spectrum product... Well, spectrum, yeah. Okay, thank you for explaining that.

Seles talk about probiotics and how they can help.

Yeah, promote are great. A lot of people confuse probiotics with enzymes, but probiotics are very helpful, so what probiotics do is their living bacteria of course, and you probably have had a million shows about probiotics, so I'm sure your listeners know what they are, but they're micro-flora, but what many people don't realize about probiotics is they manufacture lots of enzymes, lots of enzymes, so what you can often do is if you have healthy microfluidic, often the intolerance is that you might be susceptible to, you simply don't have, and then you go on antibiotics or you're exposed to something else and that micro-flora is depleted in some way, shape or form, and these Antonis show up, so one of the first things you wanna do when you start experiencing these symptoms is get on a good probiotic, it helps that the enzymes that are manufactured by these probiotics to the track.

But don't be confused, probiotics and enzymes are not the same, so on the one hand, we have living micro-flora or bacteria, and on the other hand, we have essentially proteins that are non-living, these proteins that are not living, these enzymes contain energy that make things smaller, they break proteins down into amino acids, they pray lipids down into essential fatty acids, and starches and carbohydrates down into sugars, and probiotics don't do this, they do make some enzymes to do that, but not nearly in the quantity you need to really do the job. So they're wonderful together.

So what we often do, and in somatic as well, combine probiotics with enzymes to kinda cover all the bases, but if you're taking a product that doesn't have a probiotic Senate, I highly recommend you combine in times with probiotics, they're very beneficial.

So for somebody with a food intolerance and you combine them... So I guess what I'm asking for is give an example for what's the best... What's the best example for somebody to use probiotics and even the best example I can think of is dairy intolerance, so the common lactobacillus Aeolus that is found in most probiotic formula makes a lot of lactase, the enzyme to break down lactose, and quite frankly, if a person just has a dairy intolerance, which is kind of rare, most people have multiple in tolerances, whether they realize it or not, but if they do just have a dairy intolerance and they take a high quality probiotic, that may be all they need, quite frankly, and they just need the micro-flora to overcome that dairy sugar, but chances are, it's not enough, in fact, in most cases, it's not. So they would add a lactase type product or a dairy digesting enzyme formula and really do the trick, but that combination is unbeatable. Can a person take too many a times?

No, so think of enzymes, even though they're nothing like probiotics, you've got proteins on the one hand, as we mentioned, and living bacteria on the other, it's one of the few things that we sell in the natural foods industry that has really no threshold, so you can technically take as many probiotics as you want, you can buy probiotics at the health food store and literally take 10 capsules and most people experience nothing from it because there's no known threshold and nor is it dangerous, it isn't... When you're talking about enzymes, it has the same kind of thing, no known threshold, because their proteins in a capsule, it's truly impossible to over-consume 'cause if you imagine how much protein you're getting in a capsule of enzymes is not a lot... If you over-consume these proteins, your body will utilize them as nothing more than protein, so therefore you can take as many as you want, now, that's not any reason to take enormous amounts, you wouldn't wanna be wasteful. Generally speaking, one to two enzyme capsules will always do the trick, but don't be afraid of adding more if it doesn't, or if you feel a benefit, but you're not quite over the hump, you can take three or four of even the most potent product, and there's no ill effects.

And on this note, and then I have to ask you another question, but is it a... Or is it clearly marked with enzymatic men, women, weight-wise, and then I guess... Yeah, yeah, no, that's a great question. It is, and we do have women's products, we have a women's suite, and weight is a factor because generally, the greater the weight, the more food they consume, so with enzymes, it's all about consumption, so with small meals, you don't need as many enzymes as you do with large meals, what we do to handle that is we have, for example, digest, basic digesting, disco, so we have a relatively low potency, a relatively high potency, and then the highest potency.

So for people that have chronic issues or people that consume a lot of food, they might be body builders or Tri-athletes or something like that, then they wanna go with the highest potency product, I just cold for people who eat, let's say, five or six times a day in small quantities, dies, basics, all they need, but it doesn't say on the label, weight, male, female, we try to educate them through our website and through our materials though, okay. How often should a person take enzymes for intolerance?

Well, for intolerance is quite frankly, they should take it any time they consume a food that they're intolerant to, they'd be crazy not to. So if they know that they're going out to dinner with friends and family and they wanna consume the bread at the beginning of the meal, they need to take the product with that meal at the very beginning of the meal.

However, I always recommend enzymes with every meal, regardless of our health condition, regardless of the intolerance, and the reason being is some estimate that roughly 60% to 80% of all of the energy that we consume in our lifetime is essentially used to break down food, which is enormous... Let's say it's 60%, that leaves 40% of all of our metabolic energy to run our cardiovascular system and our endocrine system in our circulatory system and every other system of the body, it leaves very little.

So the way you add back that energy is you either eat smaller meals by restricting calories, which would be nutrient-dense foods, or you fast, or you eat raw foods or you consume an enzyme every meal by doing any of those things. You're giving back some of that vital energy to the body that helps fight off infection or fight off anything that might cause illness, and so I highly recommend whether they need it or not, for intolerance, they find a digestive enzyme that works for them and they take it before every meal, even a snack, I recommend, and can enzymes help in other ways besides just intolerance?

Yes, they can. How much time do we have?

Briefly. Yeah, you name it. Literally, so enzymatic does digestive enzymes, and those are the most popular products we make, but we also make therapeutic enzymes, for example, we've got products called repair, which helps a speed recovery after exercise or after a sports injury or something like that. Anything that helps regulate to inflammation repairs is awesome for that, we've got a product called enzyme defense, which is specific for immune function, and it becomes a part of the immune system, these products, by the way, these therapeutic products that help all the other things beyond digestion. You take away from food, so you never take this with meals, you take it on an empty stomach, which is one hour before... Two hours after you eat. And so ends I'm defense, you take an empty stomach and helps support immune functions, the body literally identify what doesn't belong and remove it.

We've got a product called nataka for cardiovascular health, we've got a product called Li-Po gold that helps with fats in the blood, which most people would call cholesterol or triglycerides, and so... Yeah, if they're at all interested in the therapeutic uses of enzymes, I would highly recommend they check out the website and they look at some of the applications for these products, the other thing I would suggest it was some great books out there, Edward House book, enzyme nutrition is available, and others that can really educate them about the benefits of enzymes beyond digestion.

Excellent. Well, this was really informative. Thank you very much for Ethan, you look forward to having you on again. In the meantime, I... To you've mentioned the website. You can learn more about it. It is enzymatic dot com, enzyme D-I-C-A, enzymatic dot com. And learn how to stay healthy, and we look forward to your next visit. Thank you.

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